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thorny97 22-01-2012 09:25 PM

Cat sx3 rear drive shaft problem
 
Evening everyone, it's that time again when I need some more help please.

Got a problem with the rear drive shafts they keep popping out when I try to set up the washers on 3mm rear and 1mm front to set the rear toe/track.

Just wonder if there's a problem with the drive shafts that I have got.

Can someone please measure there front and rear drive shafts for me please, I need to get to the bottom of this.

Thank you


I know you can't get them the wrong way round but itS starting to do my head in

ulrich 22-01-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorny97 (Post 610858)
Evening everyone, it's that time again when I need some more help please.

Got a problem with the rear drive shafts they keep popping out when I try to set up the washers on 3mm rear and 1mm front to set the rear toe/track.

Just wonder if there's a problem with the drive shafts that I have got.

Can someone please measure there front and rear drive shafts for me please, I need to get to the bottom of this.

Thank you

Are you using plastic or alloy mountings?

discostu 22-01-2012 09:33 PM

are you putting a 3mm washer at the rear and 1mm washer at the front using the plastic wishbone hangers

thorny97 22-01-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ulrich (Post 610868)
Are you using plastic or alloy mountings?

Using alloy mounts, could they be wrong, brought them off email a while back

Benjy1 22-01-2012 09:48 PM

I use the alloy mounts with gaps of 3mm rear and 1 mm front with the diff in the low position and never had the drive shafts pop out. Are you running the diff high or low?

Cruise 22-01-2012 09:50 PM

Are you shure that they are mounted correctly? a picture would help.
There is also the possibility of combined droop/ with/ diff position/ camber combinations that will not work.(especially with high diff.

Cruise

thorny97 22-01-2012 10:11 PM

Think the diff is set as low.

I have tried various sheet up sheets at worksop and used lloyds sheet off Schumacher set yesterday for Coventry astro.

http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/thorny97/Sx3/

Link to some photos

thorny97 22-01-2012 10:16 PM

Run -1 chamber, ride height of 20mm approx on rear

Cruise 22-01-2012 10:21 PM

O.K. problem found the vertical screw has to go on the outside the wishbone pins have to run on the inside.

Cruise

discostu 22-01-2012 10:24 PM

you have the top alu mounts on wrong see link and go to step 31 you will see the bolt goes most outer and the curve is bulkhead side.

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumac...tSX_Manual.pdf

Cockerill 22-01-2012 10:24 PM

As Cruise said, the alloy hangers are assembled incorrectly. Here's a link to the exploded diagram which shows the correct way:

http://www.petitrc.com/setup/schumac...plodedView.pdf

thorny97 22-01-2012 10:53 PM

I understand now I think, basically top alloy blocks are on the wrong way. Car as basically being run wide at the back, and putting the extra washers on has not helped.

Thank you fellas for the help much appreciated.

Heres a quick question for you all, when you put the washers in the back lets say3mm in rear and 1mm in front what difference does this give you from say 2.5mm and 0.5mm when the overall difference is the same.

Cruise 22-01-2012 11:02 PM

The lower parts need to be mounted different aswell.
The wider mount changes the car in two ways.
Generally a wider car is more is less likely to flip over.In addition ,the wider spacing of the wishbone pins generates less chassis roll and therefore less grip.

Cruise

thorny97 22-01-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise (Post 610950)
The lower parts need to be mounted different aswell.
The wider mount changes the car in two ways.
Generally a wider car is more is less likely to flip over.In addition ,the wider spacing of the wishbone pins generates less chassis roll and therefore less grip.

Cruise

I get it now, thank you for the assistance. Car should handle a lot better at Worksop in a fortnight

thorny97 24-01-2012 11:24 PM

Made the changes, can see the difference already and I haven't set the rear end back up yet. Many thanks again


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