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andys 10-03-2008 01:40 PM

X11, who, what where and how !
 
Just read a few threads about the X11 and the new drivers. Not managed to really pick the bones out of it all as I haven't raced for pushing on a year, and I don't know all the names on this forum... anyway.

I was thinking about ordering a X11, to get back into some racing soon. I'm a bit confused though as to what's happened, and why I should hand over £339.00. Someone correct me if i'm worng, but it look slike all the Pred's i'd be racing against are now 'team' drivers. I know Northy has moved away from the Pred, which is a shame as he helped me with my old X10, and wasn't shy with helping out with the odd spare part ! I'd be rather annoyed to turn up at a meeting running a personally fully funded Pred, to be racing against mainly 'team' Pred drivers. It would be even more annoying if I beat them all !

Now i'm not against 'team' drivers, or giving people an opportunity. Generally the team drivers I have known, are A:very, very good drivers and B: Helpfull and ambassadors for their respective sponsors. Does Team Extreme not realize that they may alienate potential customers by helping some and not others of similar ability ? I know I may be totally wrong and out of line, so let me know if I am as i'm having to think long and hard about a Pred now.....

Nick Goodall 10-03-2008 01:45 PM

I was just thinking about this and posted in another thread:

I can't help but look at this whole sponsorship as a way to gain drivers and still make money as they've given people a chance to feel like they're sponsored but haven't ACTUALLY sponsored anyone (in my book, sponsored really means an A-Team drive where you don't pay for things) - i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it at all, but they've probably managed to get people to drive the car that otherwise wouldn't have due to them offering them "sponsorship" so to speak - Quite clever really!

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 02:05 PM

Hi there

After reading your posts I have to say that I am disappointed that a select few think that way.:thumbdown: Many other manufacturers sponser 'trade' drives. Our way of thinking was that we would sponser drivers that were not necessarily the top in the country, so that they would have a chance to improve. Let's face it you aren't going to notice an A finalist making the A. But you might if a driver were to progress from a D final to a C final.

Also we would gain feedback across the board, not just top driver feedback. Which is what our drivers are doing. We are choosing people that we think will do that, and improve and mostly be enthusiastic.

We are happy in what we are doing, and obviously can't please everyone. If it's not this it would be something else. The X11 is 100% authentic, original, unique and our own design and we are just trying to show that, anyone can drive it.

It's also the only car on the 4wd market that has the most suspension travel and the fastest aerodynamically! (just thought I'd point that out:))

Yanina
Team Xtreme

andys 10-03-2008 02:28 PM

Yanina.

Just a thought, orange type on a grey background is really, really hard to read.

Anyhow, thanks for the reply. I don't need convincing how good the X11 will be, I had an X10 ! Only gave up racing due to family commitments, and now looking to get racing again.

Your post doesn't really address my key point though, the X11 is one of the most expensive cars available, and I for one will fell annoyed that i'll probably be the only one whos paid list price for one in my region (do correct me if i'm wrong, but my old skool sponsorhip understanding = partly, or fully funded)

If you want to simply see more Preds racing, then if the price was nearer say a B44, for 'everyone' that would go a long way towards increasing their poularity. What i'm suggesting, is that by helping out a few local drivers in my region, you are actually alienating other potential customers who possibly feel like I do ?

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 02:42 PM

Obviously that isn't our intention. We can't offer everyone drives. We have sold a lot of X11's at RRP in the U.K and worlwide. The price for the car reflects on quality. We have it all made in the U.K and inspect parts every step of the way. I'm sure if you looked at one you'd see the difference to a cheaper a car.

The cost also reflects the design I'm positive that I could make a 'standard' car quite cheaply and sell it for what they cost now. Although it is a 4WD it isn't the same as the rest on the market. But it's still the best.:thumbsup:

I hope this answers your query

Yanina:)

super__dan 10-03-2008 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XTREME RC (Post 102463)

It's also the only car on the 4wd market that has the most suspension travel and the fastest aerodynamically!

As a slight aside, I don't actually understand either of those points?

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 02:57 PM

Quite simple:
The shock system provides the most suspension travel than any other 1/10 off-road buggy on the market (for sale)

Aerodynamically it is the fastest car on the 4WD Market. Due to it's design.
:)

Wraggy 10-03-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XTREME RC (Post 102480)
Aerodynamically it is the fastest car on the 4WD Market. Due to it's design.
:)

have you tested every other car on the market to make such bold statement ???
and we race off road , so fast isnt always good ! and is generally down to the motor and not the car your using

jimmy 10-03-2008 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 102481)
so fast isnt always good !



haahahhaahahahahaahhahaa:lol: I've seen your car go! if you were allowed to strap a rocket on the back I'm sure you'd have 10!!! :woot::D

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 03:11 PM

I didn't say it was always good thing. I just made a point. Which was actually off another post that was nothing to do with the actual car. Thats all it is

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 102481)
and is generally down to the motor and not the car your using

I'm aware of this, but the car's design has a lot to do with it.

If you put the same engine into a Ferrari F50 as in a Hummer, which would be quicker?:thumbsup:

Yanina

jimmy 10-03-2008 03:16 PM

off road it would be the hummer :woot: but that's a little off topic! :) lets get back to the pred X11 ! :)

super__dan 10-03-2008 03:17 PM

I'm sorry this is dragging off topic, I'll look forward to Gary showing me about the first point.

The second is surely meaningless, I mean anyone in this day and age can just motor up to go as fast as they like. It might have the least drag, but again I don't actually see this as a massive advantage these days. I'd much rather have perfect jumping balance in the air with a little more drag for example.

On Topic, Andy hope to see you racing soon.
Edit
Arse, it looks like I'm labouring this point now but at the current speed I type about 5 replies came in after I started my reply.

Chris Doughty 10-03-2008 03:21 PM

I think people need to give Xtreme/Pred a big of a break here.

they actually come onto the forums and answer questions, give 'regular' drivers help with their racing and what do they get for it?

I have read many threads and listened to many conversations about how people should 'help the younger ones, give support to the regional stars' etc... and 'we never hear anything from them on the forum' etc etc... (im sure you have all had similar converstaions.)

from what I can see, the new drivers seem to have gone out of their way to extend a hand to people that will be running the car to offer help and advise on the forum.

I have read many manufacturer 'claims' on boxes of cars and adverts that if you pick them to peices may not be 100% correct. its called marketing.

XTREME RC 10-03-2008 03:21 PM

Just to clear things up I said fastest aerodynamically. That point is true.

(my reply has also come through a bit late:))

(thanks for your kind words doughty (makes a change):D)

Wraggy 10-03-2008 03:35 PM

Chirs i wasnt having a go at anyone , and have never commented on the driver situation or the company as i think it can only be a good thing .
i was just making an observational comment on one of the points made by the company.

Chris Doughty 10-03-2008 03:40 PM

I am not pointing at you directly Paul.

it just seems like the 'cool' thing to do to have a pop at them, and everyone seems to be having a go whenever they can. (for whatever small reason they can find)

lets go racing instead :thumbsup:

footey 10-03-2008 03:52 PM

well said doughty:)

rcracer 10-03-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey (Post 102502)
well said doughty:)

Ditto :)

franki 10-03-2008 04:09 PM

Well said buddy lets hope thats the end of it now


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