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guinness 31-12-2011 03:35 PM

HW xstreme stock esc in a buggy
 
I have installed an 8.5t motor into a 1/10 ep 2wd buggy with an HW xstreme stock esc.
what software is best for this combo? at moment im using the 119stock with every setting to zero other then the boost at 35 but the esc get pretty hot.
any suggestions ?
thanx
https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Docum...jpg?w=29086386

CrashBangWallop 31-12-2011 06:19 PM

Xtreme stock with 8.5
 
You are really pushing the capabilities of the HW Xtreme stock with an 8.5 in a buggy which is why its getting hot, even with the fan on. Really they only meant for minimum of a 10.5 on road with 2 cell lipo nothing less.
Your best bet would be to get a HW V2/V2.1 120amp speedo this would be able to better cope with lower wind ( higher Kv ) motors and will not get as hot.

You wont have any trouble selling it at the moment as UK supplier of HW got robbed over the weekend. If you want to sell it let me know :thumbsup:

mdb_75 31-12-2011 10:58 PM

Put the latest MOD sofware on it and it should be fine, stock software's way to agressive for mod motors. My Durango has one with an 8.5T motor and it runs perfectly and cool indoors and out.

guinness 01-01-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdb_75 (Post 601128)
Put the latest MOD sofware on it and it should be fine, stock software's way to agressive for mod motors. My Durango has one with an 8.5T motor and it runs perfectly and cool indoors and out.

can you tell me witch software you are using and can you share your settings please
you can use this interac pdf for settings if you not have one
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14415603/HW%20Form%20v1.0.pdf
thanx

mdb_75 01-01-2012 09:40 PM

I'm using V3.0_110119_MOD on my Xtreme stock. All turbo settings are off/at minimum settings and the punch is on 3. I've not tried the punch any higher as I haven't felt the need to, but at minimum it was fine too.

I've got another 4wd buggy with a 60amp Xerun and an 8.5T motor that uses V2.0_110528_MOD firmware with the same minimum settings and that runs perfectly too.

guinness 02-01-2012 12:00 AM

ok so i flashed the V3.0_110119_MOD,and it feels like not allot of power in there,??? i have to wait till friday to try it at the club ,but at moment here on the bench does not seems fast.
im using a 79spur with a 23pinion giving me 8.93 ratio.

discostu 02-01-2012 12:24 AM

put the latest hw software on it V3.0_110930mod run 10 turbo 10 boost punch at 5 turn turbo delay off and you will be good i run this on a 8.5 x12 very fast and runs slightly warm no fan (it broke).

stu

guinness 02-01-2012 12:45 AM

done it and does not feel any different the previous firmware.
what ratio are u using?

discostu 02-01-2012 08:30 AM

i run 22/78in a trf502x it wont feel much diferent than 119 but the latest software was improved to bring down running temps for both motor and esc.

what motor are you running.

stu

mdb_75 02-01-2012 09:54 AM

Mod software won't feel as quick as Stock software. The stock software revs modified motors too much which is why you have to use mod software to keep temps down and to stop you over revving and blowing up your motor.

guinness 02-01-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discostu (Post 601540)
i run 22/78in a trf502x it wont feel much diferent than 119 but the latest software was improved to bring down running temps for both motor and esc.

what motor are you running.

stu

im running a 8.5t Bullistorm

discostu 02-01-2012 09:08 PM

hi guinness

not sure what the bulletstorm the setting i gave you were what i run a taplow on friday i dont know if you saw it it wasn't shy.

stu

guinness 02-01-2012 09:14 PM

Ok mate ,i will have to wait till friday at taplow.
What final you were in lol.

discostu 02-01-2012 10:00 PM

hi

i was the guy who got told he couldn't jump the triple in the 4wd A final its highly unlikely i will be there, ever

guinness 02-01-2012 10:13 PM

Ok lol you been told off.

discostu 02-01-2012 10:16 PM

yeah maybe but keeping on topic as you see it had plenty power.

Dandare 03-01-2012 11:45 PM

I don't seem able to find the true motor limit for this ESC, 3 different sources here:

HobbyWing themselves say 11.5T on 2s:

http://www.hobbywing.com/product_show.asp?id=249

GiantCod seem to think it's 17.5T:

http://www.giantcod.co.uk/xtreme-stock-p-405301.html

and Racersinexile say 8.5T:

http://www.racersinexile.org.uk/Hobb...0_1757814.aspx

Just how are you meant to know which one is correct, lol ? :confused:

fidspeed 04-01-2012 08:31 AM

you need to check whether limits are "offroad"or "onroad" and whether you use turbo functions will have an effect
Fid

CrashBangWallop 04-01-2012 01:35 PM

Stock, stock, stock
 
Sorry to be devils' advocate here but here goes.

Go by the manufacturers numbers and figures i.e www.hobbywing.com

There is a reason it's got 'Stock' in the name of the speedo because it is more suited to stock car racing which generally means in the UK 1/10th scale touring car which run 17.5t, 13.5t in a 'stock' class on road.

Did you get a warranty with your new speedo ?

If you nuke a Xtreme STOCK speedo by running it in a buggy with 8.5t would you return it and say 'Oh no, I was running it in a buggy off road with an 8.5t. See how far you get with a free repair or replacement for 'faulty' goods because you were not using it for the purpose it was intended which is 'stock' racing, on road in a touring car.

You really should be running as per my previous reply 120amp V2/2.1 Hobbywing for off road and you can program in all the bells and whistles on this speedo and have a bit in reserve if you do go a bit ott with the timing/turbo etc.

Here comes the flak ! !

fidspeed 04-01-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashBangWallop (Post 602569)
Sorry to be devils' advocate here but here goes.

Go by the manufacturers numbers and figures i.e www.hobbywing.com

There is a reason it's got 'Stock' in the name of the speedo because it is more suited to stock car racing which generally means in the UK 1/10th scale touring car which run 17.5t, 13.5t in a 'stock' class on road.

Did you get a warranty with your new speedo ?

If you nuke a Xtreme STOCK speedo by running it in a buggy with 8.5t would you return it and say 'Oh no, I was running it in a buggy off road with an 8.5t. See how far you get with a free repair or replacement for 'faulty' goods because you were not using it for the purpose it was intended which is 'stock' racing, on road in a touring car.

You really should be running as per my previous reply 120amp V2/2.1 Hobbywing for off road and you can program in all the bells and whistles on this speedo and have a bit in reserve if you do go a bit ott with the timing/turbo etc.

Here comes the flak ! !

+1 says it all CBW


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