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deano261 22-10-2011 09:18 AM

Reduce body roll
 
How can I reduce body roll in the mad rat. I have associated b4 shocks on it at the moment.

Tom3012 22-10-2011 12:06 PM

Make the inside camber links higher... So on the rear out of the four holes on the inside camber link, go to the short, higher hole... On the front try putting a 2mm washer under the ballstud in the bulk head...

Hope that makes sense?

Tom

deano261 22-10-2011 02:59 PM

will shorter springs (around 45mm also do the trick as im currently running 70mm ones which came with the b4 shocks

Robbiejuk 22-10-2011 07:31 PM

Spacers inside the shocks to get rid of some of the droop? Outside hole in bottom wishbone.

madmax 22-10-2011 07:40 PM

their is a few ways in doing this, the first way is raising the inner links like what tom said, you can also move the shocks out on the wishbones or stiffen the suspension

but why do you want to reduce the role? is car grip rolling? and what surface are you running on? what is the ridehight

deano261 22-10-2011 08:06 PM

its just that it is constantly on its roof around the fast high grip corners and im running on carpet at the moment

hit5005 22-10-2011 08:33 PM

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wot tyres u runing?
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deano261 22-10-2011 08:39 PM

schumacher mini pins (yellow) all around

Robbiejuk 22-10-2011 08:44 PM

30 degree blocks on the front. Longer wheelbase. Trim some spikes off the outside of tyres.

hit5005 22-10-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by deano261 (Post 571241)
schumacher mini pins (yellow) all around

trim off the outside row and the inside row on the back or try a set of

Mini Spikes there a bit more forgiving

Mad-Wolfie 23-10-2011 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hit5005 (Post 571285)
trim off the outside row and the inside row on the back or try a set of

Mini Spikes there a bit more forgiving

i've been running yellow mini-pins on mine for ages, never had a problem with them.

it may be that the shocks are just too hard.. try softening then a little using softer springs or thinner oil. Also check the wishbones are set level or just below the level line when the car is resting on it's wheels - pick the car up fr a couple of inches & drop it down to check the level on the wishbones.

You could try running the front & rear tie-rods so they are positioned in the hole nearer the wheels & the rods are as long as possible at the rear & you have around 2 degrees of camber & as was said, stick a 2mm washer under the ball studs under the castle. The longer arms should make the car more lazy as it goes into corners, with shorter arms the car springs upright a lot quicker or hits it's limits a lot faster when going into fast corners & when that limit is reached that is when the car could flip over if it's trying to naturallly roll due to inertia when there is nothing left to cushion or help counter the affect.

If it still rolls & flips over, it may be your steering is set to high so try adjusting the dual rate (if you have a function to do so on your transmitter) & adjust it so you don't have as much throw, if you don't have a dual rate setting, don't fling the steering wheel/stick on your tranny all the way across if you can help it.

deano261 24-10-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Wolfie (Post 571427)

You could try running the front & rear tie-rods so they are positioned in the hole nearer the wheels & the rods are as long as possible at the rear & you have around 2 degrees of camber & as was said, stick a 2mm washer under the ball studs under the castle. The longer arms should make the car more lazy as it goes into corners, with shorter arms the car springs upright a lot quicker or hits it's limits a lot faster when going into fast corners & when that limit is reached that is when the car could flip over if it's trying to naturallly roll due to inertia when there is nothing left to cushion or help counter the affect.

what is the castle?

VintageRacer 25-10-2011 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by deano261 (Post 572102)
what is the castle?

It's what the manual calls "front upper suspension mount" part #125000498

racingben 25-10-2011 08:19 AM

X4 roll bars fit on the monkey with a little dremelling. Not tried to fit a rear bar onto the rat yet.


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