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deano261 17-08-2011 09:31 AM

Schumacher Yellows vs other brand tyres
 
is there any difference between the Schumacher Yellows than any other brand because on my Ansmann Mad Rat i ran through the stock tyres in no time after upgrading to a 6.5t motor. So i was wondering if they would last longer.

Big G 17-08-2011 09:40 AM

well Yellows are the 2nd softest in the range...
Get Blue if you want them to last longer

remember the tyre that grips twice as hard wears out twice as fast (not literally) :D

Skye 17-08-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Big G (Post 541269)
well Yellows are the 2nd softest in the range...
Get Blue if you want them to last longer

I would have put Yellows as third softest, with Silver first, then Green, then Yellow....? :eh?:

Big G 17-08-2011 11:05 AM

green are harder than yellow

silver - yellow - green - blue
soft -----------------------hard

RogerM 17-08-2011 11:07 AM

Yellow is "softer" than greens mate.

What is "no time", dependant on surface you would expect to get a usable life of 2-3 meetings out of yellow minispikes BUT a new tire will always have more forward drive hence why youoften see the fast boys putting a couple of sets on a day at meetings that really matter.

cmgreen 17-08-2011 11:07 AM

nope

Skye 17-08-2011 11:13 AM

Are greens a different type of rubber then or something, as they feel softer in the hand than yellows... :confused:

i4n 17-08-2011 11:20 AM

Ballistic Greens feel softer then Schumi yellows to me.

Shumi greens are harder than their yellows. You can easily feel the difference.

Skye 17-08-2011 11:26 AM

Maybe I am getting myself confused. :eh?: I am going to have to check tonight when I get home now!

super__dan 17-08-2011 11:30 AM

No, you're exactly right IMHO, they are different and wear differently on different surfaces. Also Schumacher greeens are usually only use for one run when the edge is fresh where as Yellows when used for the right conditions are usefull proportionally longer, again surface / track specific.

super__dan 17-08-2011 11:31 AM

Also Shumacher greens feel softer to me than Yellows when new but age rapidly once out of the packet and quickly feel hard. I've some 2 year old ones in my box that are as hard as blues.

i4n 17-08-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 541311)
Also Shumacher greens feel softer to me than Yellows when new but age rapidly once out of the packet and quickly feel hard. I've some 2 year old ones in my box that are as hard as blues.

Ohhhh, that might explain it. I haven't had new schumi greens for a while and mine are a year or so old.

Stu 17-08-2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Skye (Post 541280)
I would have put Yellows as third softest, with Silver first, then Green, then Yellow....? :eh?:

That's basically correct, but it's a little more complex than just 'softess'

Yellow & Blue are the same sort of rubber (same ingredients in the mix), yellow being a softer compund, the mixture balance is different.

Greens are made of a different type rubber, they have lots of natural rubber in them so they are very soft when new but go hard over time. Greens were originally developed for use on dirt, they are like a Proline type rubber. Old ones need to be binned, I keep mine wraped in clingfilm to stop them air hardening.

I'm not sure what Silvers are, the rubber recepie feels different again to me, but this may just be due to them being very soft. They feel similar to what was called 'Bibex' back in the day, they may be the same.

There is also Red, very hard rubber similar to yellow & blue - discontinued some years ago.

Silver (bibex?)
Green
Yellow
Blue
Red

Darren Boyle 17-08-2011 11:53 AM

.....and to add to the BIBX you mention there was "pink" as well some time ago, that used to "sweat" in the bag and literally come out wet......... they were mega soft!

Stu 17-08-2011 12:00 PM

Maybe Tom could talk to Robin and get a full tale for us - I'd be intersted in it from someone who really knows the exact history.

c0sie 17-08-2011 12:06 PM

Not wishing to get this thread back on topic or anything daft like that, but Deano are you asking whether Schumacher yellow tyres (pins/spikes) will last longer than your standard Ansmann kit tyres?

manic 17-08-2011 12:09 PM

Tyres are the most import part in any motor sport big or small. They are yhe bit that hold you to the yrack.get the choise wrong and you might as well drive backwards..

Manic

mikeyscott 17-08-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 541325)
.....and to add to the BIBX you mention there was "pink" as well some time ago, that used to "sweat" in the bag and literally come out wet......... they were mega soft!

So I'm not going mad when I saw some pink Schumachers on ebay recently..

Skye 17-08-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 541321)
they have lots of natural rubber in them so they are very soft when new but go hard over time.

I didnt know this, I have some brand new ones glued up in my pitbox in case they are needed in a hurry, but have just been sitting there exposed to the air for the last month. I will be cling-filming them tonight then! :thumbsup:

mattybucks 17-08-2011 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 541336)
Not wishing to get this thread back on topic or anything daft like that, but Deano are you asking whether Schumacher yellow tyres (pins/spikes) will last longer than your standard Ansmann kit tyres?

Who knows........

It depends on the compound, surface, driving style, car, 2wn or 4wd. We all use Schumacher as they are the most competative tyre on many surfaces that can be used at Nationals, Regional, and Club meetings.

If there's a controlled tyre in usually a Schumacher. (apart from the vets)


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