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bodgit 09-05-2011 09:33 AM

Is Vettel unstoppable?
 
With three out of four wins and to be honest only tyre wear stopped it (they wont be doing that again) being four is the Red Bull and Vettel unstoppable.
He,s just driving off ahead of the field and his lead already is big. Other cars have bought their improvements to the track and still he just trounces them.
I hope we see someone catch him up soon so the season is not over before it has begun. The finish of last season was the best for years but this looks a completley different story.

Stotty 09-05-2011 09:49 AM

Simple answer yea hahaha

gaza121 09-05-2011 10:18 AM

YES - Simples!!:D

DaSloth 09-05-2011 10:26 AM

seems to be a case of you have to out qualify him really, which unless he makes a mitake is a hard task!

i think schumie can retire again, we have a german dominator already! :p

Matt-h 09-05-2011 10:35 AM

No. Put Hamilton or Alonso in the same car

frogger 09-05-2011 11:36 AM

It's getting to the point where we don't want to bother watching F1 anymore. We are not Vettel fans and he seems to have such a margin that the other drivers just don't stand a chance unless Redbull makes a big mistake. :thumbdown:

I am happy for Hamilton, Button or Webber to win, just not that arrogant little German boy. :mad:

JohnM 09-05-2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt-h (Post 499663)
No. Put Hamilton or Alonso in the same car

Half of the field in the same car would murder Vettel, he is average at best, just has by far the best car at the mo.

AndyF 09-05-2011 12:30 PM

He is, but he is very very good. If you watch his quali lap and then watch some of the in car footage you can see that.

He is a very good driver in a very good car. The winning package at the moment. I wonder if the likes of Button and Webber should qualify only on hard tyres and save all 4 sets of soft for the race. They can let the field spread whilst they run hard tyres and then with the fuel dropping off they can put in 4 super quick stints using DRS to eliminate their much worse track position.

jhammond 09-05-2011 12:35 PM

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bodgit 09-05-2011 12:47 PM

His only shortcoming is overtaking. He can put in a fantastic qualifying lap he can put in very fast laps when out in the lead on his own but under pressure with cars around him he may not have shaken off the habit he had last year of colliding with anyone he tries to overtake.
Sadly for this to happen someone has to get ahead of him first unless everyone pits and waits for him to come round then knock the crap out of his car. Sooner or later will JB or Lewis take one for the team;)

kinggareth 09-05-2011 12:55 PM

Unfortunately, as has been the case for years winning Grand Prix is 90% down to the cars.
The margin that Red Bull have over everyone else appears to be huge, and all we can hope for right now to make the season more interesting is some unreliability from them like we've seen in the past.

Vettel is a good driver, but if you get the likes of Kubica, Hamilton, Alonso or even Rosberg in the same car then he certainly wouldn't be having things all his own way. You have to wonder how Webber struggles so much, or why Red Bull keep him on when he appears to be a second rate driver - they must have other drivers queuing up to drive.
i reckon they should give Paul Di Resta a drive next year.

superstu55 09-05-2011 12:58 PM

Get him up the armco, that will take the wind out of his sails :lol:

Nick Goodall 09-05-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kinggareth (Post 499724)
Unfortunately, as has been the case for years winning Grand Prix is 90% down to the cars.
The margin that Red Bull have over everyone else appears to be huge, and all we can hope for right now to make the season more interesting is some unreliability from them like we've seen in the past.

Vettel is a good driver, but if you get the likes of Kubica, Hamilton, Alonso or even Rosberg in the same car then he certainly wouldn't be having things all his own way. You have to wonder how Webber struggles so much, or why Red Bull keep him on when he appears to be a second rate driver - they must have other drivers queuing up to drive.
i reckon they should give Paul Di Resta a drive next year.

I think you've answered your own question, they don't want two drivers taking each other out (like last year haha) or competing too much as the championship gets harder if they're sharing points all the time, it's always best to have someone who's going to dominate and a 2nd driver to be consistent...

Webber is miles off though, i know last year he beat Vettel in a few races but on pace Vettel is so much faster, just like Hamilton is against Button....

I would love to see Lewis in that Red Bull just to see what he could do with it! No doubting Vettel is good, but his stupid 1 finger "Number 1" Gesture after every P1 and race win DO MY HEAD IN - He just comes across as such a toooooooooool, he is just not and never going to be "cool" if you know what i mean.... as for the stupid things he says over the radio, that's just as annoying too.....

wacattack 09-05-2011 02:07 PM

I bumped into him at a GP last year and because Buemi signed my piece of paper first he flat out refused to sign it, ergo I cant stand the arrogant little man :thumbdown:

Big G 09-05-2011 02:13 PM

I'm bored with Vettel too. Much prefer watching Lewis or Jenson.

F1END 09-05-2011 02:44 PM

The question you should really be asking is "Is Adrian Newey unstoppable?"

It's 90% the car.

He's not dominating as much as Button was 2 years ago, and that was the car too.

Having said that, there's still only about 10 drivers in the world who could beat him in the same car.

lochness42 09-05-2011 04:42 PM

I don't like him and I'm definitely not his fan (same goes to Alonso), but it's as it is he's got best car on the grid and he can drive it. Seems like lethal combination and unless something will go wrong like last season it will be way too easy for him to win second time in a row.

Steve.T 09-05-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by F1END (Post 499763)
The question you should really be asking is "Is Adrian Newey unstoppable?"

It's 90% the car.

He's not dominating as much as Button was 2 years ago, and that was the car too.

Having said that, there's still only about 10 drivers in the world who could beat him in the same car.

agreed

kinggareth 09-05-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F1END (Post 499763)
The question you should really be asking is "Is Adrian Newey unstoppable?"

It's 90% the car.

He's not dominating as much as Button was 2 years ago, and that was the car too.

Having said that, there's still only about 10 drivers in the world who could beat him in the same car.

Double agreed.

I hope Newey is being paid more than the drivers, as he's the real reason for Red Bulls domination. He's a legend.

To be honest i'd love to see Button doing well again cuz he's such a top bloke. Sadly he's playing second fiddle to Hamilton who's a massive TOOL.

teamorsum96 09-05-2011 07:02 PM

tbh i remember not long ago another german driver that was winning most of the races and look at the mistakes he was doing


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