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Dudders 03-05-2011 09:29 PM

Gennie Cutting Out
 
Hi All,

Purchased this last week: http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...C=GA-IH-IG1000 and ran effortlessly at TORCH on Sunday from 8am to 4pm.

Used the Gennie tonight and ran for about 1 hours then cut out and would start for 5 minutes. Restarted and ran for 10 minutes then stalled. This continued.

Fuel ok, Oil ok and everythnig else looks 'ok'. Any sugestions guys :confused::confused::confused:

Neil

Dazzler 03-05-2011 09:33 PM

Have you remembered to open the breather vent on the fuel cap?

Dudders 03-05-2011 09:40 PM

Yes, that was set to 'open'. I might try it with out the cap on to see if that's the error. Its very odd, Gennie isnt hot either :confused:

Dazzler 03-05-2011 09:49 PM

Has it been running on level ground? Our Kipor generator is pretty sensitive to oil level, and whilst you can have sufficient oil in the generator, it does need to be level so as not to activate the low oil cut-off. Not sure if yours has this feature, but easy to eliminate.

Dudders 03-05-2011 09:55 PM

If I tilt the unit slightly the oil is there, so I know its not low anyway. Gennie is mainly on flat level ground. Think the Kipor unit and Clarke are the same. I was thinking fuel starvation / breathing?

bigred5765 03-05-2011 09:55 PM

did u set it to run instead of start

Dudders 03-05-2011 09:57 PM

Dont think there is a setting for that is there??? Just choke and economy/full...:confused:

Dazzler 03-05-2011 10:08 PM

To be honest, if you only brought it last week, I'd just check the oil level on level ground, check fuel level, ensure the tank vent is open.. Basically follow the instructions to start and run, then if it doesn't run - take it back, I wouldn't mess with it. If it was second hand, I'd be the first to take it to bits, but it's not.

The run / start Carl mentions is just the choke, which you have identified, economy on/off will just regulate the engine throttle to ensure it's not running full chat with little or no load.

Dudders 04-05-2011 05:34 PM

Had it at home today and ran it for 1 hour without trouble (charging laptop and LiPo's. Stopped for dinner al fresco and re started, the Gennie ran for about 30 mins before coughing and pluttering to a halt. Would not restart.

Took the access cover off and the Silver engine was red hot (couldnt touch it) but assume that's normal :confused:. Fuel, oil and air all fine.

Looks like a 60 mile round trip to take it back now :mad::mad::mad::mad:

clumsysaint 04-05-2011 05:43 PM

sounds like it might need a tweak on the mixture mate.....might be running a bit rich,they set them a little rich when new as a rule.....my clarke ig1000 generator runs all day but it will give a cough every now and then,(the kipors do the same).....never cuts out though.....starts first time,everytime with very little choke.....well pleased with the economy too.....runs on a tank for about 6 1/2 hours easily without running out.....more than what clarke states it will do.

let us now how you get on with it.

Dudders 04-05-2011 05:48 PM

Thanks Saint.

Is it possible to change this setting??

clumsysaint 04-05-2011 06:00 PM

yes mate....as like any other 4 stroke engine,its got a carb for air/fuel mixture but unless your clued up then id get someone with the knowledge to do it for you.

Dudders 04-05-2011 06:02 PM

I'm crap with engines :woot:

clumsysaint 04-05-2011 06:02 PM

to give yourself an idea though,take the spark plug out....it should be a nice tan colour around the tip,if its black and wet then its running to richer mixture....if its very pale then its running to lean....but as you said it spluttered then cut out then its more than likely to rich.

Dudders 05-05-2011 08:42 AM

Machine Mart techies have suggest a trial of a new spark plugs as when warm they can loose their earth :confused:... will try...

Dudders 05-05-2011 10:55 AM

Spark plug like a chimney sweeps arse....

Totally black and sooty. Off to get replacement now, been told by Clarke techies it's either the carb or a servo thing in the programme...

Dazzler 05-05-2011 11:08 AM

Are Machine Mart / Clarkes paying for the plug and your time / fuel driving round? If not, I wouldn't waste any more time looking at it, or spend any money on it, or waste any milage fetching a plug, Just take it back. You shouldn't need to be fixing the manufacturers problem on this.

Your new plug will also soot up if the mixture is wrong and nothing is done..

You could be spending money, wasting time, and achieve nothing ...

Dudders 05-05-2011 11:13 AM

Yes mate, and collecting a whole new unit. Sorry for not making that clear. Let's hope the new one is ok :confused:

bodgit 05-05-2011 03:25 PM

Just reject it as not fit for purpose and demand a replacement. You do not have to accept a repair on a new item. Once you start letting them replace things it can drag on. If you paid by credit card which you should do nowadays for your own protection then they are liable if alls not well.

Dudders 05-05-2011 03:41 PM

All done and dusted. As they agreed on the phone, new complete unit from stock. Hopefully this one will run better!. Might get some heavy duty spark plugs as I've heard they dont like running under little loads :confused:


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