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woOdy 07-04-2011 01:32 PM

Regionals
 
I think it is time to split the 2 classes again.
We did it years ago and other Regions do it and I think we need to start.
Is it too late to organise that now? Directed to Stu Evans.

bigred5765 07-04-2011 02:36 PM

with the amount of people showing interest in the northwest regionals it may be the only way to go,i still think prebooking in is the way to go no matter what, then the club knows how many people to expect.

jameswilkinson7 07-04-2011 02:55 PM

Maybe its because they are one day events that they are getting so popular?

DanW 07-04-2011 03:12 PM

The regionals are getting overbooked becuase there is so many people booking both classes. The other option would be to limit people to booking for one class at each event only.

If we went back to seperate 2WD and 4WD rounds, that would be 12 regionals which would really hurt club calendars.

Alternatively we do full weekends with one class Saturday, one class Sunday.... but I'm not sure our clubs have the man power to do that.

I certainley think that if the high numbers continue, then the North West region should look to going back to being run by a more formal committee, rather than our current more informal arrangement.

woOdy 07-04-2011 03:43 PM

Totally agree with everything said.
Other Regions do so why cant we?
The only thing I have an issue with is that now some people can not race in the Regionals and I would like everybody that wants to race, race.
Another surgestion is people can only run one class and not two so it gives other people chance to race.
I want to stick with Pre-Booking as I want to know who is coming too.
If people can not get on the web then the clubs need to be told that thats whats going to happen so the members can book in through the club.
This should of been already been discussed and as far as I know this has not happened with Bury Metro?
I think Eric has thought of it because of last year and the late finish and the other clubs have just jumped on the band wagon.
Al I know is the date of the Regional so I can get things sorted for then!

andy110m 07-04-2011 04:28 PM

Hi Woody,

With all the interest in the regionals this year can you let us all know what Bury is doing with regards to prebooking?

Thanks.

stegger 07-04-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy110m (Post 487236)
Hi Woody,

With all the interest in the regionals this year can you let us all know what Bury is doing with regards to prebooking?

Thanks.

Yeh, i've booked in for the others. What's happening with bury ? :)

Si Coe 07-04-2011 06:31 PM

Until our track is actually completed and ready for use, prebooking is a little premature.
Given current progress it seems highly unlikely that it won't be ready in time, in fact it should be ready in a few weeks, but that is not a guarantee.
It makes more sense to hold off pre-booking until we are sure than take bookings and then cancel.

stegger 07-04-2011 06:37 PM

Cheers Si :thumbsup:

Si Coe 07-04-2011 07:00 PM

I've been considering this and worked out the following:

We really need to split the 2wd and 4wd classes. With 7 or more heats for 2wds, 4wd spaces are automatically extremely limited, and most go to those booked in 2 classes.
But 12 race days is a big burden on the calender.

However:

We don't actually need 6 rounds. The NE region runs 4 rounds with 3 to count.
Currently there are 5 clubs in the series, but Batley is really in the NE region (and has a NE regional too!) and was mostly added because of doubts about the Bury track being ready.

Which means that there are really only 4 clubs that count for the region - Bury, Southport, South Lakes and Keighley. Traditionally Bury and Southport get two rounds, but that seems a little unfair so:

Each of the 4 clubs should have 1 round each of 2wd and 1 of 4wd. That makes 8 weekends total (so not much worse than the current 6) although clubs could choose to do Sat+ Sun. 4 rounds total, 3 to score.

If entries for the 4wd rounds are a little low, how about running SCT's as well? Might generate some interest.

Clearly its too late to sort that out for this year, but I really think its the only viable model for the future.

DianneH 07-04-2011 10:38 PM

On behalf of the Batley Club I would like to make the following points:

From the list of drivers booked in more than 20 of these drivers are either club members or regular attend Batley club meetings (and I have not counted them twice if they are booked in for both classes).

One of the reasons for hosting a meeting in the NW region this year was because of the number of drivers at the club who raced in the north west series last year or were changing to the north west this year and asked if Batley could run a meeting in the NW series - this was then agreed by 'the powers that be' for the NW region.

York club also run meetings in 2 regions and I do not believe that this has ever been questioned and, if my memory serves me well, Bury (when the NW was struggling for numbers) also ran regional meetings in the NW and the NE. Surely not one rule for one club then change the goalposts when it suits?

I, like many others at various clubs around the country, give much time to the successful running of the club, which we know is not always appreciated by a minority, and dislike the way clubs are portrayed on this forum, but on this occasion, felt I needed to respond.

The booking in at the meetings appears to reflect that it is what the drivers want - otherwise they would not enter.

I hope the NW and the NE have successful regional series as, at the end of the day, this is what all the hard work is aimed at.

Chrislong 08-04-2011 09:33 AM

The region is a victim of its own success!
Shame it was not expected, and planned for (2 day events), as the way things are there seems to be some dissapointed people unable to get entry.

I know Batley is in West Yorkshire, but it is geographically close to us all, and is an extremely good track. For me I think it is closer than Keighley and South Lakes.

How many 'visitor' racers are entering the regionals? are there any?

cr1tch 08-04-2011 10:59 AM

vistor member
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 487509)
The region is a victim of its own success!
Shame it was not expected, and planned for (2 day events), as the way things are there seems to be some dissapointed people unable to get entry.

I know Batley is in West Yorkshire, but it is geographically close to us all, and is an extremely good track. For me I think it is closer than Keighley and South Lakes.

How many 'visitor' racers are entering the regionals? are there any?

How do mean by vistor member?

Chrislong 08-04-2011 11:01 AM

I mean somebody not racing for points in the NW as they race a regional elsewhere, i.e. Midwest or NorthEast.

Evo_Snr 08-04-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 487541)
I mean somebody not racing for points in the NW as they race a regional elsewhere, i.e. Midwest or NorthEast.

In a word Chris NONE :thumbsup::thumbsup:

TonyM 08-04-2011 01:37 PM

Is it too late to consider 2 day events for the rest of the season? It's obviously too late for the first Southport Regional.

If this were possible, why not include an SCT class (2 heats?) on the 4WD day.

gazhillAE 08-04-2011 01:46 PM

I agree
One class only
And north west guys Only not from any other region
Dont see the point really, or maybe doing a heat of non north west guys
Way too many people this year!
Also a weekend of regionals is too hard for me to attend with nationals too with work

Gaz

phil c 08-04-2011 01:47 PM

I used to race the north east series but can only race Sundays due to work and family commitants so when the north west started racing both classes on one day myself and quite a few people who I race with moved across to the north west to double the amount of racing on one day , if you drop both classes on one day I think you will drop numbers as people will go back to there normal regions

budfish 08-04-2011 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 487604)
I agree
One class only
And north west guys Only not from any other region
Dont see the point really, or maybe doing a heat of non north west guys
Way too many people this year!
Also a weekend of regionals is too hard for me to attend with nationals too with work

Gaz

I agree with gaz on the point that northwest regionals should only be available to people who live in the region so if you live in the north east that's the region you race in and also only one class per driver should free up places everyone had their favorate class and that should be their choice this first come first served basis is wrong!! If you live in the northwest and want to race a regional you should be able to that's it

Northy 08-04-2011 03:10 PM

This is not post code racing you know :lol:


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