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stegger 09-03-2011 06:50 PM

TEAM TECH TIPS, DESC410R/DEX410 Gearbox Pro-Build.
 
This just out today, should help people out who have had problems with there gears breaking !

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=2584

captainlip 09-03-2011 07:21 PM

finally! stripped 2 crowns already :thumbdown: and at £12 each its expensive

for a company that charges prices like these for spares, this support and tips should come without asking.

Big G 09-03-2011 07:28 PM

Durango spares are cheap compared to Schumacher!

I'm been running the car for 3 months now and haven't broken a single item or stripped any gears. i guess it's all in the build :)

mdb_75 09-03-2011 07:36 PM

I thought that until I priced up front shock towers :gulp: !

Good guide though -that should be in the manual and are there enough shims provided in the kit?

mark christopher 09-03-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by captainlip (Post 473252)
finally! stripped 2 crowns already :thumbdown: and at £12 each its expensive

for a company that charges prices like these for spares, this support and tips should come without asking.

had mine since its launch, not done one in two years racing, guess as above you can build or you carnt!!

captainlip 09-03-2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 473257)
i guess it's all in the build :)


eye I agree only have issue with one diff other is fine.

Stu 09-03-2011 08:01 PM

I'm not sure who has done that build guide, but they need to stop biting them finger nails, urrrrrrrrrg.

mikeyscott 09-03-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Big G (Post 473257)
Durango spares are cheap compared to Schumacher!

I'm been running the car for 3 months now and haven't broken a single item or stripped any gears. i guess it's all in the build :)

Same as me, still going to do the guide on my diff and see how it feels.

dpackster1980 13-03-2011 07:05 PM

They missed out telling people to add tape where the bearings sit in the gearbox halves. Good guide though especially for setting the gap between the pinion bearings.

This stuff is simply common sense though.

Culetto 14-03-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 474681)
They missed out telling people to add tape where the bearings sit in the gearbox halves. Good guide though especially for setting the gap between the pinion bearings.

This stuff is simply common sense though.

Tape? Not sure ive heard of this one?

AndyG 14-03-2011 10:44 PM

Cracking guide ... Exactly what I needed, as I need to rebuild my 410 to get familiar (bought 'nearly new' built & 2nd hand).

Jimmy - if you're reading, I presume this is the guide you mentioned to me on Sunday @ Chadderton?

:thumbsup:

jimmy 14-03-2011 10:59 PM

Tape - he's talking about ptfe tape to sandwich the bearings. Clamp it like the guide isn't as dirty looking and i can see why they wouldn't want to tell people to do that.

Aye andy thats the one. Hope you enjoy the new car mate

dpackster1980 15-03-2011 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 475274)
Tape - he's talking about ptfe tape to sandwich the bearings. Clamp it like the guide isn't as dirty looking and i can see why they wouldn't want to tell people to do that.

Aye andy thats the one. Hope you enjoy the new car mate

Not PTFE just good old electricians tape, I just put a slither in both half casings where both bearings sit.

I found that even when you pinch the pinnion gear and input shaft together so that there was no slop as per the guide in my eyes the vertical play was excessive once rebuilt.

When you use electricians tape it doesn't pinch the bearings when you reassemble the gearbox, the tape gets squashed when the bearings press on to it. No slop and it's alot quieter no bull*hit . :thumbsup:

If people don't believe it's not needed see me at the last round of Worksop and I'll prove it. Mine has no vertical movement on the centre CVD's. :p

jimmy 15-03-2011 10:27 PM

Neither does mine :confused: Build it like the guide and you don't need tape and it's rock solid with no vertical movement.

If tape works for you though of course then it's a good solution - I'm just saying you can build it with the guide and it's fine too. :thumbsup:

AndyG 15-03-2011 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 475624)
Neither does mine :confused: Build it like the guide and you don't need tape and it's rock solid with no vertical movement.

If tape works for you though of course then it's a good solution - I'm just saying you can build it with the guide and it's fine too. :thumbsup:

ditto ... just done mine for first time, as per guide, and it is spot on.

s22jgs 16-03-2011 07:17 AM

Did mine according to guide. Had no article movement. After 30 minutes running on Sunday though they are both moving a lot. Rebuild time me thinks

jkclifford 16-03-2011 08:24 AM

Drill the diff bolt holes out to 3mm. Nut and bolt the cases together clamps the bearings much tighter than relying on the plastic threads.

HyperFX 16-03-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jkclifford (Post 475707)
Drill the diff bolt holes out to 3mm. Nut and bolt the cases together clamps the bearings much tighter than relying on the plastic threads.

Almost exactly what I did. But, I see no need to drill out the holes. Just added longer button head screws, and alu nuts.
Add proper diff shimming/assembly, and slipper adjustment, and I haven't broken a single ring gear, since.

Culetto 16-03-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpackster1980 (Post 475613)
Not PTFE just good old electricians tape, I just put a slither in both half casings where both bearings sit.

I found that even when you pinch the pinnion gear and input shaft together so that there was no slop as per the guide in my eyes the vertical play was excessive once rebuilt.

When you use electricians tape it doesn't pinch the bearings when you reassemble the gearbox, the tape gets squashed when the bearings press on to it. No slop and it's alot quieter no bull*hit . :thumbsup:

If people don't believe it's not needed see me at the last round of Worksop and I'll prove it. Mine has no vertical movement on the centre CVD's. :p

Thats an excellent idea! Are you doing the diff support bearings and the input bearings?

captainlip 17-03-2011 12:31 AM

ive just spent £50 on parts, i want this rango running as it should!!!


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