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nismo 28-01-2011 06:59 AM

2011 Avante Build Thread with comparison to original 1988 Avante
 
Finally found some time to build my 2011 Avante.... found some minor differences not mentioned in Tamiya official description between the rere Avante and the original Avante
will try to list them as i go along with my build....
And now on to the pics...

1st step of the instruction is to build the rear gearbox and motor, and this is the 1st minor differences
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...smo/Slide1.jpg
The motor plate for the 2011 is different from the original 1988
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...otorplate2.jpg

next up... is the lower and upper deck... which also have some minor differences
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3789_1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...ttpostdiff.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...opdeckdiff.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...pdeckdiff2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...rplatediff.jpg

rear gearbox with motor attached to lower deck
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3808.jpg

Front gearbox attached to the lower deck
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3809.jpg

Installation of rear arm rod (i uses a aftermarket part by Pargu for the E3)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3811.jpg

The installation of the rear arm rod is also slightly different from the original
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...earroddiff.jpg

Installation of upper deck
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3812.jpg

Rear Shock Tower installation
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3813.jpg

Rear Shock Tower attached to upper deck
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3815.jpg

Thats all for now... will post some more pics as i go along...
btw... the plastic for the rere seems to be of better plastic material than the original
1 complain i have is some of the screws parts bags are not label... Tamiya onli had label for bag A~F, another 3 bags of screws/misc parts were not label
anyway... welcome all comments... thanks

nismo 29-01-2011 02:28 PM

okie, here's part 2 of the build...
next is to build the rear arm and again, there is a minor difference...
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3820-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3821-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3823.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3824.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3827.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3829.jpg

After installation of the rear arm, i noticed some differences too
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3830-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3832-1.jpg

Next, is the installation of the front arm and bumper and without fail, there's the minor differences
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3834.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3835.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p79/ni_smo/2.jpg

The Build so far...
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3837.jpg

Front knuckle also has a very minor difference
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...IMG_3838-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3840.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3841.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3843.jpg

nismo 29-01-2011 02:29 PM

The old steering system of the Avante was also given a minor updates
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p79/ni_smo/3.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3845.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3847.jpg

A Peek beside it's BIG BRO
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3848.jpg

Shocks building
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3849.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3850.jpg

80% completed
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3851.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3852.jpg

The Body and undertray of the 2011 AVANTE was formed using the original 1988 mould
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3856.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3857.jpg

90% completed..... only need to spray the shell, cockpit and add in the decals,electronics and im ready to run
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3858.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3859.jpg

supersonic 29-01-2011 04:39 PM

You should really press charges against Tamiya for modifying the rerelease. :-) Nice pics of the building process, though. The Avante is very good looking but I would never run it.

nic

jimmy 29-01-2011 04:49 PM

Awesome build thread!
Wow, I really want one of these buggys.

nismo 29-01-2011 06:24 PM

Thanks all for the comments

here is the 3rd part.... been giving it alot of time on it...
enjoy......

Shell, undertray & wing all done in metallic blue(PS-16) with lame flake (PS-53)
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3861.jpg

Completed with decals
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3862.jpg

Together with my original 1988 Avante
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3864.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3866.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3867.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3869.jpg

Spacetech Engineering vs Diablo Engineering
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...o/IMG_3870.jpg

J-Meister 29-01-2011 08:42 PM

Awesome !!!! :wub Do you think this one can handle a brushless setup ?

Miggers 29-01-2011 08:58 PM

It still looks as good now as it did way back then.

I very nearly bought one,but after reading the reviews and race reports of the time,I went with the Optima Mid Custom instead.

You can see why it never worked as a racer,way,way,way over-engineered
and complicated.

Like I say though,it still looks fantastic,thanks for the review nismo.

J-Meister,it should handle brushless on the smooth tracks of today.
That was it's problem back in the '80's,it didn't handle,was fragile and complicated.It just didn't like the rough,bumpy,muddy outdoors "in a field" tracks that were most European(certainly a lot were in UK)circuits back then.

Tamiya expected it to blow away the opposition(it was their first "real" attempt to take the 1/10th off road crowns),instead the Schumacher and Kyosho opposition blew it over the fence.

Mark

Apricot Slice 29-01-2011 11:16 PM

Nice job!!:thumbsup:

Tamiya used the original tooling. You can see on some of the plastic bit where the tools have been remachined.
They must have a sky high pile of old tools somewhere.

MHeadling 29-01-2011 11:21 PM

Amazing build thread Nismo! As a kid that was on the dream Rc car list along with a Egress!

Out of interest have they done or any plans to do a Egress?

brookie 29-01-2011 11:45 PM

Saw one of these in the flesh today, quite simply.....WOW!!!:thumbsup:

What a piece of kit, you can see why it didn't work but as an RC engineering project :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Gayo 29-01-2011 11:57 PM

Awesome! Thank you for taking the time to dismantle your original car to show us the differences :thumbsup:
I had an Egress back in the day... Memories :lol:

Fredrik Emilsson 30-01-2011 08:36 AM

Yeah, great build thread!

The Avante is the best looking buggy of all times. Looks super from every angle.
Looks nicer without options like Hi-cap dampers etc.

Not gonna spoil the thread by adding pics, but have a look at this site:
http://www.tamiya101.com/model_info.asp?id=72

Some nice pics from different angles.

supersonic 30-01-2011 09:47 AM

I thought the driver in the cab was part of the original avante? That looks so awesome!

nic

Jedi Master 30-01-2011 10:23 AM

Awesome build thread. The end result is simply stunning!

nismo 31-01-2011 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miggers (Post 457786)
It still looks as good now as it did way back then.

I very nearly bought one,but after reading the reviews and race reports of the time,I went with the Optima Mid Custom instead.

You can see why it never worked as a racer,way,way,way over-engineered
and complicated.

Like I say though,it still looks fantastic,thanks for the review nismo.

J-Meister,it should handle brushless on the smooth tracks of today.
That was it's problem back in the '80's,it didn't handle,was fragile and complicated.It just didn't like the rough,bumpy,muddy outdoors "in a field" tracks that were most European(certainly a lot were in UK)circuits back then.

Tamiya expected it to blow away the opposition(it was their first "real" attempt to take the 1/10th off road crowns),instead the Schumacher and Kyosho opposition blew it over the fence.

Mark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apricot Slice (Post 457836)
Nice job!!:thumbsup:

Tamiya used the original tooling. You can see on some of the plastic bit where the tools have been remachined.
They must have a sky high pile of old tools somewhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Meister (Post 457779)
Awesome !!!! :wub Do you think this one can handle a brushless setup ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 457694)
Awesome build thread!
Wow, I really want one of these buggys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersonic (Post 457688)
You should really press charges against Tamiya for modifying the rerelease. :-) Nice pics of the building process, though. The Avante is very good looking but I would never run it.

nic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 457837)
Amazing build thread Nismo! As a kid that was on the dream Rc car list along with a Egress!

Out of interest have they done or any plans to do a Egress?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayo (Post 457849)
Awesome! Thank you for taking the time to dismantle your original car to show us the differences :thumbsup:
I had an Egress back in the day... Memories :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik Emilsson (Post 457870)
Yeah, great build thread!

The Avante is the best looking buggy of all times. Looks super from every angle.
Looks nicer without options like Hi-cap dampers etc.

Not gonna spoil the thread by adding pics, but have a look at this site:
http://www.tamiya101.com/model_info.asp?id=72


Some nice pics from different angles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by supersonic (Post 457888)
I thought the driver in the cab was part of the original avante? That looks so awesome!

nic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jedi Master (Post 457896)
Awesome build thread. The end result is simply stunning!

thanks all for the comments. Cheers:)

Fredrik Emilsson 31-01-2011 09:18 AM

I think Paranoid Perry will drive both the Avante and the TRF502X.
After all, he did drive the first "TRF-made" car back in 1988.
He´s a legend, ha ha!

Will try to fit him in the 502X cockpit.:)

muratti 31-01-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik Emilsson (Post 458179)
I think Paranoid Perry will drive both the Avante and the TRF502X.
After all, he did drive the first "TRF-made" car back in 1988.
He´s a legend, ha ha!

Will try to fit him in the 502X cockpit.:)


HAHA :lol: Good fun Fredrik, please get me a pic if you manage to do that properly!

Lonestar 31-01-2011 01:28 PM

Superb build thread - thanks for sharing with us :wub

AaronR 31-01-2011 06:20 PM

Great detail! Thanks for sharing!


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