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dewil 31-10-2007 01:47 PM

Cogging? LRP Sphere 007 + 6,5t
 
Hello guys!
I recently bought a Lrp sphere 007 with an Lrp 6,5t motor to use in my Lazer ZX-5. I have noticed that it hesitates a little when giving full throttle from a stand still and a guy at the club said it was cogging.

How can that be? it is geared 17 / 78 wich should be pretty low and I use standard settings and a team orion carbon lipo battery.

Is my gearing too high or is something wrong with my system or settings?:wtf:

Really would epreciate any help.
Best regards
/Will

GRIFF55 31-10-2007 03:15 PM

Are you using ko radio with spektrum? I had this problem until i put the big spektrum cap on.

dewil 31-10-2007 03:28 PM

noop, not using spectrum. just an ordniary fm 40 mhz hitec lynx 3d. There are however no glitches or anything, just that cogging when taking off.:confused:

ashleyb4 31-10-2007 04:39 PM

Check your sensor lead.

A

tyreman 31-10-2007 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 68047)
Check your sensor lead.

A


Get in there lad, Ashleys finally given some good advice;)

Northy 31-10-2007 05:07 PM

When I forgot to plug in my sensor lead it wouldn't run at all.

G

Kopite 31-10-2007 05:08 PM

me too. Morale of the story here is....always use the sensor lead

..and don't eat yellow snow :)

grindog 31-10-2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 68056)
When I forgot to plug in my sensor lead it wouldn't run at all.

G

Does this kill anything or is it just a no runner until plugged in?

ashleyb4 31-10-2007 05:13 PM

hehe

There may just be one faulty wire in there which would cause the cogging but still allow the motor to work.

A

Kopite 31-10-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grindog (Post 68059)
Does this kill anything or is it just a no runner until plugged in?

The latter is what happened to me. It just sort of grumbled angrily at me until i plugged it in. No damage to the gear though

mark christopher 31-10-2007 06:21 PM

take it off lipo mode!

dewil 31-10-2007 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 68071)
take it off lipo mode!

Why will that make it run better? Feels kind of nice to have the lipo mode on so I donīt discharge the pack too much.

I will order a new sesor lead or atleast inspect the current one.

Everyone agrees that the car isnīt overgeared?

Thanks for all the help by the way!:)

ashleyb4 31-10-2007 08:10 PM

There is a good chance that is why you have your problem it only takes 30 seconds to try its worth it if it saves yo buying a new sensor lead.

A

josh_smaxx 31-10-2007 09:35 PM

Make sure the sensor lead is fully plugged in, mine was cogging tonight then i pushed the sorsor wire right in and it was perfect. Does the specktrum power cap get rid of the anoying pause before you get throttle?

burgie 31-10-2007 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 68071)
take it off lipo mode!

aye, this indeed is the solution the problem. It cured my sphere "stutter" straightaway, using the original comp version and team orion lipos.

DCM 31-10-2007 09:53 PM

if you got it on lipo mode, the esc might be cutting out momentarirly, also, check all your connections are in good order.

mark christopher 01-11-2007 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewil (Post 68092)
Why will that make it run better? Feels kind of nice to have the lipo mode on so I donīt discharge the pack too much.

I will order a new sesor lead or atleast inspect the current one.

Everyone agrees that the car isnīt overgeared?

Thanks for all the help by the way!:)

simple when u give it full throttle your cells are dropping below the cut off point for lipo and the speedo cuts, then comes back when the load is off, trust me and try it. i found out by the same method!!:cool:

think on this, how did i know you had it on lipo mode when you have not said???

dewil 01-11-2007 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 68162)
simple when u give it full throttle your cells are dropping below the cut off point for lipo and the speedo cuts, then comes back when the load is off, trust me and try it. i found out by the same method!!:cool:

think on this, how did i know you had it on lipo mode when you have not said???

Sounds logical! Ill try that the next time im on the track! thanks a bunch for all the good help guys!:D

ginger fixit 01-11-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewil (Post 68012)
Hello guys!
I recently bought a Lrp sphere 007 with an Lrp 6,5t motor to use in my Lazer ZX-5. I have noticed that it hesitates a little when giving full throttle from a stand still and a guy at the club said it was cogging.

How can that be? it is geared 17 / 78 wich should be pretty low and I use standard settings and a team orion carbon lipo battery.

Is my gearing too high or is something wrong with my system or settings?:wtf:

Really would epreciate any help.
Best regards
/Will

cogging in a brushless system is caused mainly in 2 ways.

1 is as posted a sudden drop in power in when you give the gas, this from what i can gather happens more with lipos than nimh`s.

the other cause is when a sensor wire is old they seem to be less tolerante to heat than when new so when the motor is warm not hot then you give beans from the line it sees loads of power that it thinks might cause it damage so it hesitates or cogs

a new lead will sort the problem i would also check the winds in side to make sure they havnt got to hot and the laquer started to burn off.

i hope that helps i too have had a coging motor which was solved with a new sensor wire i think they start to blacken inside causing resistance which causes the problem.

Andy Bell

mark christopher 01-11-2007 01:15 PM

its more to do with the voltage dropping on any pack not just lipo, a good lipo pack will be ok, my problem was not with my trakpower lipo but with some NIMH cells


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