oOple.com Forums

oOple.com Forums (http://www.oople.com/forums/index.php)
-   Team Losi Racing (http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17)
-   -   XX4 Ackerman?? (http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5546)

bretts 26-09-2007 03:57 PM

XX4 Ackerman??
 
I know this is a bit of a noob XX4 question, but.....

Which is the best setting for the ackerman inside or outside?

I've looked at a few cars and setups and both are used. :confused:

Any help will be much appreciated.

Cheers

Brett

bigred5765 26-09-2007 05:33 PM

we use the outside hole all the time

Northy 26-09-2007 05:37 PM

Use the one that makes it steer properly, not the one that makes it go:

Push, push, push, push, push, hook!

If there is one that is.....

G

matdodd 26-09-2007 07:29 PM

Which ones that? :confused:

lazerboy 26-09-2007 08:10 PM

sorry guys, at least from what iv'e been told and what i've read, it doesn't look like there is any ackerman adjustment on the xx4(from looking at Jimmy's review car) The only adjustment there is different holes for the steering drag link. In this case, the inside hole would provide more throw before the steering assembly would hit the Diff adjustment plates. If you run the inside hole, you will have to shorten the turnbuckles, and there may not be room for that. I think that The car is fine on the outside hole, and doesn't need any more steering.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ckermaniw3.png

_sleigh_ 26-09-2007 09:58 PM

:eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?::eh?:

PaulRotheram 26-09-2007 10:04 PM

:rolleyes:

Kopite 26-09-2007 10:05 PM

may i say..... WTF?

lazerboy 26-09-2007 10:06 PM

sure, but why?

matdodd 26-09-2007 10:10 PM

:eh?: :rolleyes:

bigred5765 26-09-2007 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerboy (Post 62158)
sure, but why?

because you would delete your statement,theres no ackerman,:eh?::wtf:

MikePimlott 26-09-2007 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerboy (Post 62097)
sorry guys, at least from what iv'e been told and what i've read, it doesn't look like there is any ackerman adjustment on the xx4(from looking at Jimmy's review car) The only adjustment there is different holes for the steering drag link. In this case, the inside hole would provide more throw before the steering assembly would hit the Diff adjustment plates. If you run the inside hole, you will have to shorten the turnbuckles, and there may not be room for that. I think that The car is fine on the outside hole, and doesn't need any more steering.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ckermaniw3.png


EXPOSED ! as a TIT

lazerboy 26-09-2007 11:53 PM

WhAt!?!?:eh?::D i have NO idea what you guys are saying, REMEMBER i live in America,
and we speak a little different here. SO if you could please speak in as simple of a language that you can!


Goo Goo GA GA GOOOOO

Chris Doughty 27-09-2007 06:58 AM

cant remember which way round it is, but one option gives the car a more positive feel going into the corner, the other gives more on-power steering.

Lazerboy - you really are genius! will you be my crew cheif for 2008? :eh?:

ashleyb4 27-09-2007 08:43 AM

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:yawn:

A

bretts 27-09-2007 08:43 AM

Thanks to all. (especially lazerboy :confused::eh?:)

I'm using the outside hole too. So this saves me a job, cheers

Brett

bigred5765 27-09-2007 09:07 AM

should we change his name to crazyboy ? lol

vader 27-09-2007 09:32 AM

CRashley, crazyboy... Carl you're on a role :D

terry.sc 27-09-2007 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazerboy (Post 62175)
WhAt!?!?:eh?::D i have NO idea what you guys are saying, REMEMBER i live in America,
and we speak a little different here. SO if you could please speak in as simple of a language that you can!

What they are all saying is that the Losi XX4 steering setup gives a greater difference in ackerman between the two settings compared with the centre link type of adjustment in your picture, the complete opposite of your statement.
Whoever is talking to you and whatever you are reading don't know what they are talking about.

Generally less ackerman (the standard setup) gives more aggressive steering and better steering into the corner, but can lead to sudden oversteer when you let off the power in the corner and the outer tyre loads up.

More ackerman (the inner holes) gives less initial turn in but is more consistent through the corner. Also gives better steering at low speed (but who wants to go slow:D)

greyfox 28-09-2007 09:16 AM

Click on this link:-

http://www.rctek.com/handling/ackerman_steering_principle.html

for a complete explanation on the effects of ackerman steering in a model car.


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
oOple.com