what do you fs drivers think???
 

me and nick have been running the car for over a year now and weve found that when you have the diffs to tight it wants to push going into a corner thats with the independant slipper i know when useing the slipper independantly it can act as a centre diff so if you used it in conjunction with tight diffs is this making the car push going into corners as its making the slipper act as a diff instead of the front diff so i was thinking now most of us are useing the pined slipper could we now run tighter diffs without the car wanting to push and get more drive through and out a corner what do you think guys????? i havent had chance to try it yet!!!

I now have the slipper pinned and to be honest the front diff is only a little tighter than the rear and not something i would tune with. Due to the amount of weight over the front on and off power steering is very good if anything i am struggling with getting the back end balance (grip) consistant through the whole corner, with the front diff tight or loose the rear was still not right. I am experimenting with rear springs and angles ATM, camber links next.

HTH Simon

How many people have tried Tony's rudebits kit? I'll be fitting mine to the car and trying it. Not sure how much weight to put in at the mo, but this should surely help settle the rear end a bit more?

Already have 85g weight in the back spine, i think my problem is shocks on the back as it is hard to get it in and if it slides it is hard to get it back in line.

I run 60g as does Nick.

From the point of view of plain physics running the shocks on the rear of the wishbone will help free up the suspension movement making it more complient and consistent through it's travel, my shocks are always on the back.
The only expection to that is if I really NEED to move the weight forward in which case I run the shocks in the kit position.
This is my main concern with the big bores ... lots more weight there so will be a much bigger change moving them front to back


As for the question of diff settings it's all a matter of balance but I have always tried to run my diffs as free as is possible without them slipping, front slightly tigher than the rear. I personally still think this is the main benefit from a ball diff, can be right on the verge of slipping but still give good drive and free diff action at the same time ... with a geared diff it's one or the other (hence why I know a few Durango runners are using the Kyosho ball diffs in their cars ;) ).

Nick will no doubt be along in a little while to describe the results of the huge amounts of testing he has done around diffs and slipper settings.

i ran my fs for the the 1st round of worksop , this was my very 1st outing
and wasnt impressed , the car went were it liked not were i wanted to go,
nick had a look atthe players meeting last week and staight away told me the diff's are to tight , and proceeded to set them up for me , i was a little suprised
when he handed it back to me how loose they are , but i can say its transformed the car 110% better than my 1st outing , so i agree the diffs are
usless when tight .
cheers nick:thumbsup:

I'm well impressed with this car.

Running stock FS2 setup, got 60G's in-between LiPo's, pinned the slipper and the diffs are loose! The car is awesome.

Had a real good race with Matt today, managed to get him on the inside line a few times so the car must be setup well!!

but who won in the end???? lol realy enjoyed today mega race between me and you in the final mate,it looks like all the kyosho drivers have gone roll bar mad after trying them today mr caro was loving his rear roll bar:woot:

:thumbsup: Lol! certainly made a HUGE difference!! Shame i had speedo problems.. was supprised how quick i managed to change it in the end! Had a really good run in final.. happy days! Cheers for the advice Matt :thumbsup:

All FS's i saw to day going round looked very good!!

Colin May finished up 3rd today... good skills dude! :thumbsup:

Cheers

Nick
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Yeah was great day guys with the cars.

I got there in the end of Q shame i didnt do it all in the morning.

I can agree big time running rear roll bar made loads of difference too.

Yeah Matt & Ry i was catching you both until some certain little non sense happened lol......:p

Roll on Worksop :woot:

Roll bars .... really (I guess ok on carpet tracks). Interesting to understand your thinking and what they are achieving for you on the track.

no not carpet tracks roger any track,you get more going into the corner as it helps the car pivet, more consistency through the corner and more drive out to as soon as i talked nick into putting his on he was a second a lap faster straight away

Roll bars on the front, rear or both ends?

sam your not allowed in here this is kyosho not durango lol but were talking about roll bars on the rear!!

Ha, im trying to get some inside info from the opposition!!!

We had a good battle in one run till my car stopped!!

Listen Sam.. youve asked numerous questions about the FS and looked at mine on many occasions... now do just the right thing and buy an FS2!! :p

You know you want too... plus imagine a days racing without messing with mucky/messy diffs!! :p

Cheers

Nick
:thumbsup:

I started off with running ARBs on the FS until I found a way of stabalising the car without them. On tracks like Coventry (think about what you would get if you astro turfed the surface of the moon and left a few edges loose then made the track markings out of land mines:p) the ARBs just make the car far far too unpredictable IMHO.

Admittedly I've not revisited the ARBs since going to permenant 4wd from a one way but then I'm never suffering from lack of pivot on the FS!

he was looking at my fs sunday to haha and before you ask sam no i dont think the bevel gears in an fs will take a 2.5t motor and 50c lipos lol

MattB ... I'd actually not bet against it. I've had the same set of gears in mine since it was built and they are still good as new (15 months). My old SP never had a new set when I was running it, also 15 months (but I put a new set in on sale because I'm nice like that).

I'm with Nick,

Come an play with a proper car Sam :p