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Snappy 25-09-2010 10:32 AM

Cougar SV Outdrives
 
I've been running the cougar for a few meetings now and feel the outdrives are wearing way too fast.

My RC10B4 never even showed wear in this area and I've been running a CAT SX for the last year and the outdrives don't look worn either.

How many meetings are other Cougar SV owners geeting with these seemingly soft outdrives?

Is this a known problem Schumacher is aware of?

hansie 25-09-2010 01:39 PM

SV outdrives
 
Hello all,

Same problem here, the outdrives are way too soft.
I'm pretty fed up with the poor quality of the Cougar.
Bearings, outdrives, gears....it's all made out of paper.
I'm replacing everything that has been worn out after 4 months
(half the car) and I'm going back to Associated.
I've read great things about the RC10B4.1
I don't really want to change back to AE because the Cougar design is good, if the Cougar runs it runs great, better than my old B4's and XXX's.
But it is just to expensive to keep the Cougar running good enough
to be able to use it as a race car.

Greetings

Hans

SteveB 25-09-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hansie (Post 417234)
Hello all,

Same problem here, the outdrives are way too soft.
I'm pretty fed up with the poor quality of the Cougar.
Bearings, outdrives, gears....it's all made out of paper.
I'm replacing everything that has been worn out after 4 months
(half the car) and I'm going back to Associated.
I've read great things about the RC10B4.1
I don't really want to change back to AE because the Cougar design is good, if the Cougar runs it runs great, better than my old B4's and XXX's.
But it is just to expensive to keep the Cougar running good enough
to be able to use it as a race car.

Greetings

Hans

Is the out drive a real problem to all? If it is something that is required as a replacment optional part, then these can be produced. Or are Schumacher improvement the quality of the hardening?

Can anyone advise?

benknight13 25-09-2010 09:29 PM

I have had the same problems there are wearing so fast it , cant understand just how fast :thumbdown: allthough shumacher did replace them foc.

Thanks
Ben

autoxvw 26-09-2010 01:41 AM

My cougar is one from the first batch to the states and I have not had a single problem with it. I have the orig layshaft and gear, the orig trans housing everything. Dont know what to say really, just wanted to throw that out there.

moth898 26-09-2010 03:05 AM

Same here, I just finished my season, with the original diff & arms, and come to think of it, I didn't break anything. Only went through one set of external gears.

If you guy race on dirt like I do, you have to keep those suspension parts and out drives clean. The dirt acts like sandpaper on those moving parts. I always brush on a jenerous amount of wd-40, on all the suspension and drive parts, a day before the race. It dries and becomes a teflon like film. Keeps dirt from sticking and saves those metal parts from premature failure.

Snappy 27-09-2010 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benknight13 (Post 417396)
I have had the same problems there are wearing so fast it , cant understand just how fast :thumbdown: allthough shumacher did replace them foc.

Thanks
Ben

Hey Ben,

How much use did you get out of your first set of outdrives?

Have the replacement ones lasted longer?

benknight13 27-09-2010 09:37 PM

They were probly run for about 6 meetings, i am not saying they should not wear as i understand they will but i cant name one other car that wears out outdrives as fast:(

As for the New ones i am not sure as only run for one meeting so far so cant really tell but fingers crossed these will be better:thumbsup:

Snappy 28-09-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benknight13 (Post 418041)
They were probly run for about 6 meetings, i am not saying they should not wear as i understand they will but i cant name one other car that wears out outdrives as fast:(

As for the New ones i am not sure as only run for one meeting so far so cant really tell but fingers crossed these will be better:thumbsup:

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm thinking I got a little unlucky with mine. Seems not that many are having this issue. :cry:

Big G 28-09-2010 10:50 AM

shame they don't have something like the SST did with those little plastic bits that wore before the driveshafts or outdrives

Culetto 29-09-2010 05:51 PM

The only issues i have had with mine is the stock servo arms are really easy to strip (modded a graphite hitec stock one to fit) and i blew out all the inner gears in the tranny, not a problem with the gears though, lost the oring that holds the pin in the top gear and the pin demolished everything else including the diff gear. I havent run 2wd buggy since the original jrx2 but ive seen the b4's at my track breaking alot of stuff, i ordered a massive amount of spares since no shop within 12hr drive has anything and ..... havent used anything.

Randall34 30-09-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 418120)
shame they don't have something like the SST did with those little plastic bits that wore before the driveshafts or outdrives

Thats right, i notice that chris grainger has added them to the Mi4 now too.

Cruise 30-09-2010 02:05 PM

Blades where used in The Cat 3000 and in the end the only lasted 2 packs before they had to replaced .And this was with 10 turn Motors that had only half the power as modern brushless systems.

The replacement outdrives are wearing much slower than the kit ones.

Cruise

gazhillAE 30-09-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autoxvw (Post 417418)
My cougar is one from the first batch to the states and I have not had a single problem with it. I have the orig layshaft and gear, the orig trans housing everything. Dont know what to say really, just wanted to throw that out there.

Same with me but i upgraded them all anyway as i can do :thumbsup:
Good car!

Cream 30-09-2010 11:33 PM

I'm guessing they didn't want a repeat of the problems they had with the SX, Sounds like they have now gone to far the other way and made them to soft.

Anemic_SluG 08-10-2010 04:22 PM

It's the long wheel base that kills the outdrives. I agree that they probably wear in any case, but when I started running the long wheelbase the diff lasted about a month. Didn't have the issue when running in the middle. ANyone else notice that wheelbase changes have that effect? Also had the same issue with my Kyosho, something about the suspension geometry that causes the wear.

robstanway 09-10-2010 09:43 PM

I'm having the same problem love the car but things are made to cheap!!!
It cost me 40 quid last club meet and it was only on for 3 heats.

Snappy 20-10-2010 09:58 AM

A quick update.

I contacted the retailer who I purchased my Cougar from (Action RC in Queensland) and he chatted to the guys at Schumacher.

Between Action RC and Schumacher a new set of outdrives was sent to me FOC.

I would like to say how impressed I am with the customer service provided by both Dave from Action RC and Schumacher.

Thank you, very much appreciated and unexpected outcome.


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