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shaun m 31-12-2009 03:41 PM

17.5t brushless motors , which out of these ... more top end ....
 
hi ...:thumbsup: which out of these 2 would you say would perform better in a tamiya m05 .....and fitted with a nosram evo istc speedo .... :woot:

ive got a novak ballistic 17.5t , runs great , has thermaled and cut off once ,but has a nice top end , althou like i said it does get quite warm ....

the other motor i have is whats being removed from my tc ,

its a lrp vector x11 stock spec 17.5t , ive never used it as the tc was 2nd hand when i bought it ....( but i trust the seller :) ) ..

reading on the pc , it seems like the lrp has a kv rating of 2.300 and the novak is 2.200kv

and the watts :o ( i dont know the ins n outs of electrics )the novak has 130 watts and the lrp is 153 watts .....

does that mean the lrp will be better than the novak , as i said ive never been unsatified with the novak , but just wondered if the lrp will be even better ..... :p


cheers for your help ... shaun

DCM 31-12-2009 04:19 PM

in the end, if you don't have a speedo that can acheive adjustable timing, none of those motors will me ballistic.

shaun m 31-12-2009 04:23 PM

so the lrp wont be anygood then .......as the ballistic has adjustable timing on the end ..

DCM 31-12-2009 04:26 PM

the LRP comes pre-timed

shaun m 31-12-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DCM (Post 325742)
the LRP comes pre-timed

cheers , as i said im clueless with electric , so will the lrp work and be ok .....

sparrow.2 31-12-2009 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun m (Post 325740)
so the lrp wont be anygood then .......as the ballistic has adjustable timing on the end ..

What he means is if you haven't got a speedo with reactive timing such as the LRP SPX Stock Spec or the Tekin the car is going to be slow. These speedos advance the timing depending on the speed the rotor is turning.

mark christopher 31-12-2009 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun m (Post 325740)
so the lrp wont be anygood then .......as the ballistic has adjustable timing on the end ..

its the speedo that makes em fast in stock

shaun m 31-12-2009 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 325761)
its the speedo that makes em fast in stock

i cant find the same listed , but its identical to this one ....
http://www.microtechracing.com//prod...745&Pcat=SPEED CONTROLLERS&cat=SPEED+CONTROLLERS

Chequered Flag Racing 31-12-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 325742)
the LRP comes pre-timed

is it not adjustable like the 10.5 LRP/Nosram's?

only got a Tekin 17.5 and not run it yet but hope to at Tamworth over the weekend

shaun m 31-12-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 325778)
is it not adjustable like the 10.5 LRP/Nosram's?

only got a Tekin 17.5 and not run it yet but hope to at Tamworth over the weekend

the lrp motor doesnt appear to have adjustable timing ( on the end bell ) like the novak ballistic motor ... cheers

mark christopher 31-12-2009 05:45 PM

it does unless its the storm
loosen the 3 screws and move the ring so the cut out moves to the timing mark

http://www.lrp.cc/en/products/electr...-spec/details/

http://www.lrp.cc/fileadmin/lrp_prod...x304_50850.jpg

shaun m 31-12-2009 06:31 PM

yeah its the same as that , but i cant see any timing marks on the side ( like the one above ) my mate has the same esc as mine , and a novak ss motor , that hasnt got adjusable timing , and his has been fine ....

mark christopher 31-12-2009 06:35 PM

the motor will be fine its the speedo that adjusts the timing, BUT it can only do that if it has the feature, your speedo doesnt.

my nosram 10.5 has no timing marks but you CAN adjust the timing ;)

shaun m 31-12-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 325798)
the motor will be fine its the speedo that adjusts the timing, BUT it can only do that if it has the feature, your speedo doesnt.

my nosram 10.5 has no timing marks but you CAN adjust the timing ;)

ok cheers... i knew the timing could'nt be moved on the nosram speedo , i have tried and loosened the 3 screws and the ring doesnt move , but ill try again later when the motor is changed to the m05 ....

like i said my mates m05 with the same speedo , and a motor without adjustable timing , works ok ( well no one can catch him / he's laps ahead etc ...) so it doesnt seem to limit his top end too much .....

Chequered Flag Racing 31-12-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun m (Post 325812)
i have tried and loosened the 3 screws and the ring doesnt move

The orange ring doesn't move, the plastic with the slot in it moves.

Use a flat blade screw driver in the slot to move it.

You can just see the timing slot in the picture above.

mark christopher 31-12-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 325813)
The orange ring doesn't move, the plastic with the slot in it moves.

Use a flat blade screw driver in the slot to move it.

You can just see the timing slot in the picture above.

yup what he said!!

shaun m 31-12-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 325814)
yup what he said!!

ive not tried to move the orange ring !!! i tried to move the plastic ring with the knotch in it , and that doesnt move .... :p

this motor doesnt have timing no's on the motor either ....

Dazzler 31-12-2009 08:18 PM

I'd suggest marking the original position too - before you do get it to move. Just so you know where you are if there's no marks currently on it.

mark christopher 31-12-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun m (Post 325816)
ive not tried to move the orange ring !!! i tried to move the plastic ring with the knotch in it , and that doesnt move .... :p

this motor doesnt have timing no's on the motor either ....

nor does my 10.5 but you CAN move the ring!! only the thin black ring moves, not the endbell

shaun m 04-01-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 325824)
nor does my 10.5 but you CAN move the ring!! only the thin black ring moves, not the endbell

cheers , i knew the end bell wouldnt move , i managed to work that out .. all on my own :o .. as i said there was no timing marks on the side of the motor ( like in the picture ) , but there was 3 seperate notches on the black ring ...

but its all ok now , i raced with it yesterday , done 7 races ..
6x 2nd places 1x 3rd place ..... :woot: and yes there was more than 3 :lol:


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