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AmiSMB 10-12-2009 08:31 AM

Ball cups
 
I have managed to get my turnbuckle to disappear all the way into the plastic ball cup on the front. I wondered why it looked so strange and could not work out why the drive shaft was so close to the yoke. I have found that after a heavy crash the camber or toe is usually out and I am checking this after every race just incase. I was wondering what other people are using or if anyone else has experienced this.

mark79 10-12-2009 12:59 PM

Yes, the ball ends strip or push in on impacts and not just during crashes. I landed at an angle from a smal jump at a corner and stripped a rear camber link.

I also think they develop play quicker than other makes. I also never really had to be carefull before about which way round the turnbuckles were as if they are wrong they tighten with the suspension action.

I've ordered JConcepts ones to try next as the stock ones aren't available at the moment. I noticed in photos that the Team Durango world champs car has White turnbuckles that look like they could be the JConcepts ones.

Smartalec 10-12-2009 02:13 PM

Try using the white Losi ball cups and HPI ball studs, these are excellent and seem to stop the problems :thumbsup:

GRIFF55 10-12-2009 04:38 PM

Glad you like my work Alec;):thumbsup:

Smartalec 10-12-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 319934)
Glad you like my work Alec;):thumbsup:

LOL, i've only just finished taking both diffs out. I thought I'd better have a look and see how it all works :lol:

trap121 10-12-2009 06:33 PM

what size ball studs do I need to use the losi ball cups?

racdeaf 10-12-2009 06:39 PM

would the RPM rod end fit on the durango's ball stud ?

trap121 10-12-2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by racdeaf (Post 319987)
would the RPM rod end fit on the durango's ball stud ?

I would like to know this as well :)

rcjunky10 11-12-2009 02:32 AM

Ball cups!
 
Guys do you have part numbers for these items (Ball studs and RPM cups) as my Dex will be here next week and I'd like to have all my option parts in hand by that time.

Thanks!

Hoggy 11-12-2009 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racdeaf (Post 319987)
would the RPM rod end fit on the durango's ball stud ?

Yes the rpm trackrod ends fit the standard durango ball studs(be sure to buy the long version of the trackrod end though) i,ve just fitted mine allround and its taken all the slop out plus the rod ends are a lot tighter fit on the trackrods so i would imagine theres less chance of them moving.
The best thing is though they look totally sexy in white rather than black:p

AmiSMB 11-12-2009 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoggy (Post 320115)
Yes the rpm trackrod ends fit the standard durango ball studs(be sure to buy the long version of the trackrod end though) i,ve just fitted mine allround and its taken all the slop out plus the rod ends are a lot tighter fit on the trackrods so i would imagine theres less chance of them moving.
The best thing is though they look totally sexy in white rather than black:p

Are these RPM ones the Super Duty Turnbuckles for Lunsford ball studs? I ask as I have tried some J Concept ball ends on the turn buckles but the ball stud is not big enough for the Durango ball stud and was horribly stiff.

Hoggy 11-12-2009 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmiSMB (Post 320126)
Are these RPM ones the Super Duty Turnbuckles for Lunsford ball studs? I ask as I have tried some J Concept ball ends on the turn buckles but the ball stud is not big enough for the Durango ball stud and was horribly stiff.

They are just the standard version but a bit longer,The only thing i have noticed is that where the track rod end fits onto the inner durango ball end thats a bit stiff and does restrict the shocker movement but i,m hoping with a couple of runs this will free off

TEINsports 12-12-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmiSMB (Post 319788)
I have managed to get my turnbuckle to disappear all the way into the plastic ball cup on the front. I wondered why it looked so strange and could not work out why the drive shaft was so close to the yoke. I have found that after a heavy crash the camber or toe is usually out and I am checking this after every race just incase. I was wondering what other people are using or if anyone else has experienced this.

This was a problem which i highlighted to TD when i gotten the kit (1st few batches) and was politely brushed off by saying none others has had this problem. Anyway, you'll be safer with rpm ball cups with 4.3mm studs. The kit studs are a tad bigger

blackstring 12-12-2009 03:31 PM

The Associated TC5 ball studs are the smaller "standard ball" but with Metric threads. I've been using these with the losi dark grey extra rigid cups with excellent results.

ASC31280 Short neck, 5mm thread
ASC31282 Short neck, 10mm thread
ASC31284 Long neck, 8mm thread
ASC31285 Long neck, 10mm thread

LOSA6016 Extra rigid ball cups GREY

trap121 13-12-2009 02:01 AM

I ordered these ball studs because I was told I only needed 8mm

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRUZ0
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRUZ3

These are the ball cups I ordered

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRB07
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEV20

Is this going to work????

blackstring 13-12-2009 10:01 PM

Yep, either of those studs will work. The black are the short neck and the silver are the long. The long neck ones will have the same height as the originals so camber gain will be the same. You can use the short neck to play with camber gain or bump steer too.

The cups you have pictured there will work also, they are similar to RPM's plastic. These are the losi HD cups I'm talking about, they seem to be super hard compared to others. Either will work though :thumbsup:

http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...id-Ball/Detail

AmiSMB 14-12-2009 11:17 PM

Just for anyone that is interested the Losi and AE ball stud diameter is around 4.27mm I reckon this is why HPI use 4.3mm. Being of the 4.3mm type you can use any ball end that will fir AE, Losi or HPI. The Durango ball stud is 4.47mm which is more similar to Kyosho 4.5mm size. Currently HPI and AE TC5 ball studs have a 3mm metric thread and will fit the Durango holes.

AmiSMB 17-12-2009 07:02 PM

Schumacher ball studs are 4.3mm so I have got some of these from M K Racing and am going to try them with some J Concepts ball studs. Pictures to follow.

xchange 06-01-2010 02:59 PM

Hey Guys,

With the problem of the ball cup, any one tried to put a drop of cyano in the ball cup to reinforce the plastic of the ball cup?

Thanks

Rebelrc 24-06-2010 09:25 PM

losi/associated b/studs wont fit as they are imperial


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