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snige 17-11-2009 10:08 PM

x6 squared spares
 
hey just got a secondhand x6 squared and was just wondering what spares i should carry

Mike Hudson 17-11-2009 10:15 PM

All you'll need is:
rear wishbones
rear inner hinge pins
rear toe in bars

There the only xfactory parts you'll ever manage to break I think.

Rest is just the usual Associated B4 front end parts that you can break on any car as there first in the firing line...
front wishbones
front castor blocks
front steering blocks
front bulkhead

usafaircrew 17-11-2009 10:16 PM

The XFactory parts rarely break from my experience. Other than the normal front arms and other commonly broken front end parts than nothing. Maybe a set of rear arms.

Spoolio 18-11-2009 07:26 AM

Please don't all have a go at me for suggesting this but if funds allow I would always carry a spare chassis. I know it's a bit of an extreme measure but my car was second hand too and the guy I got it off managed to take the nose off it at least once (he's not a bad driver either, just had an unlucky "off"). I've seen some others lose front ends too due to heavy impacts. I'm not knocking the X-Factory parts, it's just that if you have a "big one" in the first round it could mean game over. Same goes for the B4 / XXX etc.

mark christopher 18-11-2009 12:10 PM

wing mounts

MALLET 18-11-2009 12:17 PM

Yeah wing mounts. That nipple is too small and the nipple ring (body clip:lol:) pulls through too easy.

I drilled and tapped mine after the and had no problems since :thumbsup:

reg 18-11-2009 06:24 PM

my chassis snapped in half on sat:cry:..........i couuld understand if i was bashing(somthing iv never done),and running into kerbs and jumping 50ft flat out.......it was a proper race meeting so its not what i would exspect and its never happend before:confused:.........does anyone know if the plasic chassis is any stronger and will last longer than 2 months:thumbdown:

mark christopher 18-11-2009 06:39 PM

u got the k factory front shock tower? been told this can make the weak link of the tower move to the chassis

reg 18-11-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 312048)
u got the k factory front shock tower? been told this can make the weak link of the tower move to the chassis

yes it is the k factory,the chassis just snapped off where it bends up at the front

mark christopher 18-11-2009 08:47 PM

i have been told that running that tower if you tip over the tower is that strong the chassis can break..... somone else may confirm,

reg 18-11-2009 09:09 PM

I dont know if you were watching mine Mark when it snapped,i went over the table top(small compaired to most)landed on the wheels and it just rolled to a stand still:cry:

Darren Boyle 18-11-2009 11:06 PM

Hi Reg, if you think the chassis is at fault in any way, then please feel free to send it straight back to us to be looked at and just include a note stating when you purchased it and indeed from whom it came from. I am not making any promises but if we believe that there is anything "wrong" with it then we can take a look to do somthing with it for you.

It is worth remembering that it is not always the small crashes that do the real damage to a part, it "could" of been caused by an earlier "big" off that you thought you had got away with.

The K Factory tower IS a lot stronger (which is why we like it) but as has been said it does pass the shock further down the line and indeed the chassis is just one part that is under more load as a result.

The plastic chassis will be more resilient, purely because the material has more "give" to it than the stiffer graphite. Over 120 plastic chassis are now out in circulation in the UK and we have not had 1 return (having said that, there are over three times that many graphite ones out there and we have only ever had 3 of them back to examine so far too)

ian h 19-11-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 312097)
i have been told that running that tower if you tip over the tower is that strong the chassis can break..... somone else may confirm,

Very true Mark, something similar happened to mine, I do believe had I been running the AE tower then it would have broken first.

YoungChazz 19-11-2009 05:20 PM

Let's remember what we are about here. The engineering compromises are difficult as we try to make a light fast Sherman tank. We are here to win, but to finish first you must first finish.

Everybody, including me on my personal X - 60, wants a car that never breaks. Big thick beefy parts made of relatively flexible material designed to last forever no matter what. But if the car does not win, nobody will buy it, so it's got to be stiff and we must save weight everywhere.

The perfect example is Traxxas, who at least for a while guaranteed every part on their buggy for life. The backyard bashers love it, but I haven't seen many on the podium.

At X Factory our primary concern is winning races. We do consider durability -- the vast majority of breakage on X Cars is the AE parts -- but we assume nobody ever runs an X Car in their yard, that the Family only run at organized race tracks. So we build the fastest race car we can and give the famous 50-50 guarantee.

reg 19-11-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungChazz (Post 312446)
Let's remember what we are about here. The engineering compromises are difficult as we try to make a light fast Sherman tank. We are here to win, but to finish first you must first finish.

Everybody, including me on my personal X - 60, wants a car that never breaks. Big thick beefy parts made of relatively flexible material designed to last forever no matter what. But if the car does not win, nobody will buy it, so it's got to be stiff and we must save weight everywhere.

The perfect example is Traxxas, who at least for a while guaranteed every part on their buggy for life. The backyard bashers love it, but I haven't seen many on the podium.

At X Factory our primary concern is winning races. We do consider durability -- the vast majority of breakage on X Cars is the AE parts -- but we assume nobody ever runs an X Car in their yard, that the Family only run at organized race tracks. So we build the fastest race car we can and give the famous 50-50 guarantee.

you dont need to explain anything unless it was happening all the time......no one will disagree with what you have made,the X6 is nothing short of amazing,nothing is going to be %100 unbrakeable,but the one off is always going to happen and its how it is delt with is what helps......DMS do you proud:thumbsup:

snige 19-11-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YoungChazz (Post 312446)
Let's remember what we are about here. The engineering compromises are difficult as we try to make a light fast Sherman tank. We are here to win, but to finish first you must first finish.

Everybody, including me on my personal X - 60, wants a car that never breaks. Big thick beefy parts made of relatively flexible material designed to last forever no matter what. But if the car does not win, nobody will buy it, so it's got to be stiff and we must save weight everywhere.

The perfect example is Traxxas, who at least for a while guaranteed every part on their buggy for life. The backyard bashers love it, but I haven't seen many on the podium.

At X Factory our primary concern is winning races. We do consider durability -- the vast majority of breakage on X Cars is the AE parts -- but we assume nobody ever runs an X Car in their yard, that the Family only run at organized race tracks. So we build the fastest race car we can and give the famous 50-50 guarantee.

just wondering if x factory ever taught of making a 2wd buggy without a doner car?

Paul_Sinclair 19-11-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snige (Post 312547)
just wondering if x factory ever taught of making a 2wd buggy without a doner car?

Nope, we've never considered it :lol: <end sarcasm>. Its a matter of capital, and building the company.... each kit we've done has been more X Factory and less donor car. Stay tuned, you never know what could be coming... :thumbsup:

Mike Hudson 19-11-2009 09:21 PM

I have a question I've wanted answering for awhile just not got round to asking...

How come the extra material that was added to the 3 supports on the nose of the origional X6 in the pics below wasn't carried onto the x6 squared chassis?

Hasn't that the left the squared chassis weaker than the origional? As I remember when the stronger nosecones came out for the origional X6 after quite a few people were breaking the standard nose cones that didn't have the extra material on...

Origional X6 nose with extra material around the 3 chassis supports
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g.../x6support.jpg

X6 Squared nose
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...qnosupport.jpg

Cooper 20-11-2009 09:04 AM

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6J6Viu0M2HQ/Sv...0/IMG_8188.jpg


My car at Langenfeld, auch :) (this was the reinforced nosepiece :) )



http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6J6Viu0M2HQ/So...0/IMG_2286.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6J6Viu0M2HQ/Ss...0/IMG_9032.jpg

This is the 2nd and 3th broken squared chassis from driver X that is broken and I photographed...

reg 20-11-2009 09:24 AM

thats the same place mine has snapped,it looks like it snaps where the lip on the side finishes as in the second pic,odd coz i would have thought they would be weaker around the screw holes


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