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BenG 10-04-2007 08:48 AM

How to make a protoype shell?
 
Ok.

I have on the quiet finally finished my *first* prototype B4 conversion. I still have many mods to make, however, I want to make a shell for it now, as everyone else does, like out of coke bottles?

Please help.

Also, can you tell me the best materials to use to make a mould?

I was thinking car body filler.

Thanks,

Ben

BenG 10-04-2007 08:53 AM

I found this

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=...language_tools

Is that a good method?

Could I make a shell out of body filler, and mould it like that?

Lee 10-04-2007 10:27 AM

I think pro`s use some sort of clay, you will find the body filla will "go off" too quick and become unworkable

BenG 10-04-2007 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 32536)
I think pro`s use some sort of clay, you will find the body filla will "go off" too quick and become unworkable

I will try clay, I did make a B4 mould a while ago, its hard, but easier to re-shape as you say ;)

Thanks for the tip.

elvo 10-04-2007 11:43 AM

PICS! PICSSssss!!

BenG 10-04-2007 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 32557)
PICS! PICSSssss!!

Will post pics as soon as I create a working prototype. (Out of the delrin I got today) ;)

Northy 10-04-2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 32511)
I found this

http://66.249.93.104/translate_c?hl=...language_tools

Is that a good method?

Could I make a shell out of body filler, and mould it like that?


Is there an english translation?

G

dave g 10-04-2007 11:50 AM

oasis block is very easy to work with and can be shaped easily just by rubbing firmly with the fingers,make sure you get the denser stuff tho,i used to make all my diarama's out of it because its sooo easy to work with and texture.
you can then coat it in pva glue to harden it when shaped.

the other alternative..balsa?
again coated in pva glue when finished.

philly 10-04-2007 12:15 PM

[quote=www.tyrc.co.uk;32509]Ok.

I have on the quiet finally finished my prototype B4 conversion. I still have many mods to make,

Not wanting to be discouraging, but 'finished prototype' with 'many more mods to do' :wtf:

I'm looking forward to seeing the end results though.;)

BenG 10-04-2007 12:25 PM

sorry that should read my *first* prototype hehe

BenG 10-04-2007 12:28 PM

Is Oasis block the stuff they use for floral arrangements?

Is PVA glue heat resistant? If I gently mould a shell to fit, it may take a bit, so will the PVA hold-up?

Definitely looks cheaper than using other stuff.

I wonder if I could make moulds from it?

jim76 10-04-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 32509)
Ok.

I have on the quiet finally finished my *first* prototype B4 conversion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 32558)
Will post pics as soon as I create a working prototype. (Out of the delrin I got today) ;)


:confused: :eh?: :wtf: :confused: :eh?: :wtf: ?!?

tc2k 10-04-2007 12:43 PM

Would the oasis block be suitable for creating a mould for making a carbon layup chassis like the piranha?

pro4nut 10-04-2007 12:46 PM

i would recommend jellutong, it is what i used to make the shell mould for the car i built for my A level.

Once you have formed the shape coat it with P38 and when it has hardened rub it down with 1200 grit.

Oasis could not be put in a former.........

PVA glue will lose adhesion and become sticky under heat, it also isn't water proof.

Can i recommend a trip to the library or a visit to an adult learning centre.
Might also be worth getting a few GCSE Design and Technology text books all this was covered in the national curiculum when i was going through teacher training.

pro4nut 10-04-2007 12:48 PM

Here is a web link with info on Jellutong,

http://www.monarotimber.com.au/sp_jellutong.htm

BenG 10-04-2007 12:53 PM

Thanks for the info

tc2k 10-04-2007 12:54 PM

pro4nut, you seem to know alot.
If you look at the piranha p2 chassis, it has been moulded around some sort of base. Would the oasis block be a good material to use for a mould for a carbon layup chassis or is it too easy to dent?

BenG 10-04-2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim76 (Post 32573)
:confused: :eh?: :wtf: :confused: :eh?: :wtf: ?!?

I have made a prototype from acrylic type material, so I wouldn't use it unless I was crazy. However it has allowed me to see the proposed layout e.t.c

BenG 10-04-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc2k (Post 32582)
pro4nut, you seem to know alot.
If you look at the piranha p2 chassis, it has been moulded around some sort of base. Would the oasis block be a good material to use for a mould for a carbon layup chassis or is it too easy to dent?

My grandma has the stuff knocking about, if I remember its very easy to dent simply by poking it. Perhaps, if you put a Tarpaulin sheet over the oasis and hold it tight it may be solid enough to hold the carbon lay-up.


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pro4nut 10-04-2007 01:06 PM

I haven't used carbon fibre so i would not like to make an incorrect statement. I have worked with fibre glass and the resins used generate a lot of heat. An option could be to use blue or pink polystyrene foam to make a male mould, which in turn you use to create a female mould. This can be done by putting the male mould in the bottom of a box, pouring plaster or a cold cure resin of some sort. Then to remove your origanol polystyrene mould just disolve it out with a solvent. This mould can then be used to create a more durable working mould. This lets you work with a material that is easy to form and then create a copy in a harder more durable material.


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