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VinceVegaUK 05-07-2009 06:27 PM

DB01 Dampers (non tamiya) advice
 
Hi all,

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, i did a search and looked through posts but couldn't find anything.

I went to my 1st Buggy race today at Bury. Everyone was friendly and helpful and I met a few guys i see at my other local track where we race touring cars and buggies.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vincedesi...s/Durga_01.jpg

There where only 10 racers, so we where split into two sets of 5. The first race was going well and i managed to nail the jumps a lot better than last weeks practice run, and it got better each race. Had a few teething issues, my overclocked 7.2v servo wire came off so lost steering but luckily just after the line. Second race i won but again just after the line my pinion fell off :-s. I have found the hop up pinion set (13t, 14t, 15t) are a little longer than the stock ones and the grub screw is very near the end of the motor pin. the last two heats i won also so i was 1st in the B final :-)

In the final i did ok but found the car across all races a bit soft with the stock dampers, the tyres gripped well but with this combination i was bottoming out a lot and grip rolling if i didn't keep myself on my toes or pushed too hard. I came 2nd in the B final so was please but felt if i hadn't have rolled (3x) so much by pushing it I could have won.

Does anybody have any tips on a good damper set and a spring set thats good with the db01? and what oil do you suggest, the stock oil is 900 weight but i have found most of the club guys are running with 30/40 with harder springs. The TRF ones are a little pricey, the 3 racing ones are cheep but look a little too cheep, i hear you can use the Team Associated or Losi ones, if so has any one used these?

Thanks

VV

DCM 05-07-2009 06:30 PM

grab a set of B4 shocks, silver springs all round, 35wt front and 30wt rear, and keep the B4 piston setup, be sorted then

VinceVegaUK 05-07-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 261202)
grab a set of B4 shocks, silver springs all round, 35wt front and 30wt rear, and keep the B4 piston setup, be sorted then

I take it thats the Team Associated B4 is there a difference between the 4wd & 2wd TA B4 dampers? Just making sure.

Any recommendations on where to purchase?

Thanks

VV

EDIT

Looking on online shops am i looking for the RC10B4 'shocks' as the americans call them, i cant see them in a set so do i have to buy them all individually? Im looking at the tamiya ones now but there a lot at £47, does the 501x spring set fit with the stock plastic dampers?

peetbee 05-07-2009 06:59 PM

Keep an eye out for a secondhand set of shocks on here (or a wanted advert) they often turn up for around £25 the set.

You can buy them as a set I believe, but does work out pricey, mind you, not as pricey as the Losi shocks!

(B4 = 2wd B44 = 4wd)

PS I run old non threaded Losi shocks and they work great, based the setup on the advice of DCM above

superdez 05-07-2009 08:26 PM

tower hobbies in the states

great value and shipping is quick

VinceVegaUK 05-07-2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superdez (Post 261258)
tower hobbies in the states

great value and shipping is quick

I had a look at tower hobbies http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=ASCC9525&P=X and only found the fronts, do i have to order each part sepratly? if so it comes to $54, i can get the TRF set (inc all 4) ones for $70 :-s. Not sure about getting second hand ones as dampers get punished and if they break i have no comeback!

stox217 05-07-2009 10:21 PM

Every now and then new one's come up on here but you will have to wait a while

superdez 06-07-2009 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinceVegaUK (Post 261322)
I had a look at tower hobbies http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=ASCC9525&P=X and only found the fronts, do i have to order each part sepratly? if so it comes to $54, i can get the TRF set (inc all 4) ones for $70 :-s. Not sure about getting second hand ones as dampers get punished and if they break i have no comeback!

http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...oducts_id=5008
B44 front shock kit from M-K Racing, £37

http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...roducts_id=705
B44 rear shock kit from M-K Racing £39

sosidge 06-07-2009 08:01 AM

At those prices, I would go for the Tamiya set, combined with AE springs (or even the kit Durga springs). Tamiya's own springs are very soft for UK conditions, I think the Tamiya blue front is equivalent to the AE Silver front, and they get softer from there.

The Tamiya shocks are basically a metricised copy of the AE ones, but a direct fit on the car, and easier to work on. Start with 1.4mm rear piston and 1.3mm front piston.

Your bottoming out etc. is more a function of the very short travel on the Durga kit shocks, with the Tamiya shocks you get a lot more travel (they do need spacers in them otherwise you get far too much travel), you'll find that the car is a lot more settled with the longer travel dampers. Also the plastic dampers have ineffectual pistons (hence the #900 oil). They just aren't up to proper racing.

shanks 06-07-2009 12:21 PM

Bury
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VinceVegaUK (Post 261200)
Hi all,

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, i did a search and looked through posts but couldn't find anything.

I went to my 1st Buggy race today at Bury. Everyone was friendly and helpful and I met a few guys i see at my other local track where we race touring cars and buggies.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/vincedesi...s/Durga_01.jpg

There where only 10 racers, so we where split into two sets of 5. The first race was going well and i managed to nail the jumps a lot better than last weeks practice run, and it got better each race. Had a few teething issues, my overclocked 7.2v servo wire came off so lost steering but luckily just after the line. Second race i won but again just after the line my pinion fell off :-s. I have found the hop up pinion set (13t, 14t, 15t) are a little longer than the stock ones and the grub screw is very near the end of the motor pin. the last two heats i won also so i was 1st in the B final :-)

In the final i did ok but found the car across all races a bit soft with the stock dampers, the tyres gripped well but with this combination i was bottoming out a lot and grip rolling if i didn't keep myself on my toes or pushed too hard. I came 2nd in the B final so was please but felt if i hadn't have rolled (3x) so much by pushing it I could have won.

Does anybody have any tips on a good damper set and a spring set thats good with the db01? and what oil do you suggest, the stock oil is 900 weight but i have found most of the club guys are running with 30/40 with harder springs. The TRF ones are a little pricey, the 3 racing ones are cheep but look a little too cheep, i hear you can use the Team Associated or Losi ones, if so has any one used these?

Thanks

VV

Looked pretty good to me pal - you certainly hustled it round the track well enough considering the way it was handling!


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