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telboy 05-04-2009 04:43 PM

malaysia-dont read if you haven't seen it!
 
Well, it was a little strange, but a good result.

Excellent bit of rain!
Shame it was stopped though, would have been nice to see it finish properly.


How good is it not have a single ferrari or mclaren in the top 10 in the points though!!

A great start to the season continues.

:)

losixxx 05-04-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by telboy (Post 226271)

How good is it not have a single ferrari or mclaren in the top 10 in the points though!!



:)


Apart from Lewis that is!:)

super__dan 06-04-2009 11:15 AM

He's not in the top 10 overall which is what Terry means I think.

Southwell 06-04-2009 11:21 AM

I hope Brawn get their new gearbox sorted ASAP, the Honda one isn't working well on the Merc engine.

Gonky 06-04-2009 11:29 AM

Yeah, Rubens really seemed to struggle most of the weekend with it...

timmy121 06-04-2009 11:50 AM

yeah sounded like button clutch was slipping coming out of the pits one time
great car, did OK in wet to say they have had no wet practice time

telboy 06-04-2009 07:47 PM

How good were those RedBulls in the wet though!!

Amazing!!

_sleigh_ 06-04-2009 09:13 PM

Be interesting to see the results from tomorrows FIA meeting.

DCM 06-04-2009 09:21 PM

is that the diffuser issue? I thought cars had to be submitted to the FIA for scrutineering before the season, then any major updates done the same way.

mattym0310 06-04-2009 09:27 PM

yeah and, from what I know, the cars passed scrutineering but other teams have appealed against it thinking that its unfair because they didn't think of the idea :lol:

timmy121 06-04-2009 09:38 PM

yeah for brawn toyota and redbull for there under foil thing

Agt26 06-04-2009 09:51 PM

It's quite funny really with all the big professional teams kicking up a fuss because they didn't think of that idea :p

good race though

losixxx 06-04-2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 226573)
He's not in the top 10 overall which is what Terry means I think.

yes he is, joint 10th with bourdais


PosDriverPoints
1 Jenson Button 15,
2 Rubens Barrichello 10,
3 Jarno Trulli 8.5,
4 Timo Glock 8,
5 Nick Heidfeld 4 ,
5 Fernando Alonso 4
7 Nico Rosberg 3.5
8 Sebastien Buemi 2
9 Mark Webber 1.5
10 Lewis Hamilton1
10 Sebastien Bourdais 1

Fabs 07-04-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 226897)
yeah and, from what I know, the cars passed scrutineering but other teams have appealed against it thinking that its unfair because they didn't think of the idea :lol:

I know for a fact that Renault asked the FIA months ago if they could do it, and got told they couldn't. It would appear that not every team had the same answer to the same question, which is one good reason to protest...

DaveG28 07-04-2009 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 227010)
I know for a fact that Renault asked the FIA months ago if they could do it, and got told they couldn't. It would appear that not every team had the same answer to the same question, which is one good reason to protest...

That's the FIA's fault though, not the other teams!

DCM 07-04-2009 09:31 AM

but if the FIA have approved it, then surely they can't just revoke it, as the diffuser section is quite a complex peice of engineering.....

Once again, the FIA show their incompetence?

Fabs 07-04-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 227012)
That's the FIA's fault though, not the other teams!

As far as I'm aware they're complaining against the FIA and not the teams.

As I said in another thread, it's all the FIA's fault, they shouldn't have left such a loophole in the rules and once identified should have amended the rules to allow or ban the diffusers.

As things stands, there are 6 teams which need to redesign 3/4 of their car in order to make full use of the diffuser, and that costs a lot of money. At a time where the FIA are suposedly reducing the spendings of all the teams, whichever teams will have to change their design to comply with the rules or to be competitive (depending on what is being decided) have every right not to be happy about that...

xjr14 07-04-2009 10:42 AM

Well Flavio says they asked if they could do it, but nobody knows if they asked the right question!!! Could mean the same but so badly phrased that the FIA thought the Renault way is not within the regulations. the other teams were just to arrogant a year ago ( http://allenonf1.wordpress.com/2009/...ear-consience/ ). I hope they pay for it, meaning the double / triple diffusers of Brawn / Toyota / Williams remain legal. The FIA hearing will be on the 14th! ...next tuesday. It`s very nice to see this new world order in F1, it`s also nice to see drivers on the podium that actually seem to be happy about it and also seem to like eachother. Aslo drivers who actually have to say something interesting in the press conference!!!

Sepang GP was a excellent race up until the red flag I think. Only Button showing the real potential of his car and himself right before his first pitstop scares me a bit. 1 sec fester than the first non-Brawn car in race spec. Hope Williams, Toyota and Renault catch up! My dream worl championship fight going into the last race would be Button/Alonso/Trulli.

xjr14 07-04-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 227026)
As things stands, there are 6 teams which need to redesign 3/4 of their car in order to make full use of the diffuser, and that costs a lot of money. At a time where the FIA are suposedly reducing the spendings of all the teams, whichever teams will have to change their design to comply with the rules or to be competitive (depending on what is being decided) have every right not to be happy about that...

Well I have to disagree! Windtunnel / CFD development is limited, so it makes no difference money wise if you develop a new diffuser or the 100th version of a rear wing. They always us 100% of their resources, so the cost argument is just crap. Anyway just bolting the new floor on will not do it! The whole concept of the car has to be changed as people with knowledge have said. Don`t believe the stupid things Briatore / Horner / Dr. Marko have to say about it......

Fabs 07-04-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xjr14 (Post 227029)
Well I have to disagree! Windtunnel / CFD development is limited, so it makes no difference money wise if you develop a new diffuser or the 100th version of a rear wing. They always us 100% of their resources, so the cost argument is just crap. Anyway just bolting the new floor on will not do it! The whole concept of the car has to be changed as people with knowledge have said. Don`t believe the stupid things Briatore / Horner / Dr. Marko have to say about it......

Why you disagree, you just said exactly the same as me, in different wording.

There is a difference in cost if you make 10 Wings or if you make a New Car... And in the meantime you're not optimising your package, which is what the other teams are doing. You might as well throw the season away and start working on next year's car...


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