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phunki101 13-01-2016 10:25 AM

Losi or EMB???
 
Hi,
Looking to buy my first Micro, done some research online, and definatey want a shaft drive Micro as opposed to a belt driven one.
But which one.
There's not much talk on here about Losi's, are they not that good?

Any advice on which to go for, good and bad for both cars would be appreciated.

cheers

markwilliamson2001 13-01-2016 07:42 PM

I have driven both the Losi and EMB-1. The EMB-1 is better out the box IMO.
You don't really need any further upgrades but the rear CVDs, some Losi mini8 soft springs and some thicker diff oils for tuning are all that is required.

The Losi seems to have died out on the national scene, and the diffs aren't sealed properly like the EMB-1 so you cant easily use diff oils for tuning like in the EMB-1, however the EMB-1 diffs leak a bit.

The weak point on the Losi is the front lower hinge pin holders. The alloy tuning parts are quite expensive. The same parts are steel on the EMB-1.

If it was me, I would buy the EMB-1 2015-16 model, some CVDS for the rear as the dog ones make on-power handling a little odd.

I bought two cars. I then had a motor, speedo, servo(s) and a whole car of spares. I bought the RTR and racing kit.

The alloy chassis is better and more consistent.

20k front oil and 10k rear oil in the diffs helped me, Losi mini8 springs and shortening the rear link made the car easier to drive and more natural. The car is smoother with a 20t pinion on.

The Carisma is generally recognised as the easier car to drive but does need some hop ups such as metal motor mount, gear diffs etc.
Hope this helps
Mark

phunki101 14-01-2016 10:42 AM

WOW!

Cheers Mark for the info very much appreciated and very helpful :thumbsup:

JulianJ 14-01-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunki101 (Post 937843)
and definatey want a shaft drive Micro as opposed to a belt driven one.

Great thread Guys!

I'm curious, why the preference for shaft drive over belt drive?

What do you think about the Losi AVC system, worth having for indoor racing?

Kind regards
Julian

leeboy44 14-01-2016 11:10 AM

I've also raced both and agree with Mark


If you do decide on losi pm me as I might have some nice bling kicking about along with all the mods you need ;)

phunki101 15-01-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JulianJ (Post 937922)
Great thread Guys!

I'm curious, why the preference for shaft drive over belt drive?

What do you think about the Losi AVC system, worth having for indoor racing?

Kind regards
Julian

Purely and simply it's gonna be me and my son (he's 9) and still learning the 'art' of thumb control and realizing where the bends are in relation to the straight bits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So shaft drive is gonna be a bit more resilant to his current 'on/off' style of driving rather than fragile belts!!!
I'd have a belt drive car, but want the same car for both of us for ease of spares reasons :)

Not really looked into the AVC system????

JulianJ 15-01-2016 10:47 PM

Re AVC, looks like it might help on surfaces with very poor traction.....

http://youtu.be/svbuFOxCc38

markwilliamson2001 17-01-2016 12:32 PM

Please be aware that the AVC is illegal in the Micro Nationals and probably frowned upon when racing at regional and club events. Fine for bashing though


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