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redtyson 30-08-2015 09:48 AM

alloy rear camber mount and weights yz2.what you think
 
Anybody tryed the rear yz2 alloy camber mount and weights.it looks a good bit kit.did it help I want no in slippy wet conditions

Paultje040 30-08-2015 10:09 AM

I bought it because it just looks good. Dont notice any differance without the extra weight.

It comes with a 6 and 12 gram weight.

neallewis 30-08-2015 11:43 AM

I've seen a club member snap the plastic mount, which ended his days racing as no one had a spare at the track.
I've run the alloy one as soon as I could and really like it. It's 6g heavier than the plastic with the option to add on 6 or 12g more is really helps with tunability especially on low traction. Wet astro i stick the weights on, one screw and they are off when it dries out.
It's a good option part, and helps lock in the rear on low traction indoors, in combination with the steel hangers and bmax4iii wider rear arms.

J77MYF 30-08-2015 04:43 PM

I have one and it's well worth buying.

redtyson 30-08-2015 05:19 PM

When would you run the weight system on the back

discostu 30-08-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by redtyson (Post 924030)
When would you run the weight system on the back


I think this was answered

As for the part it's just sexy.

redtyson 30-08-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu (Post 924048)
I think this was answered

As for the part it's just sexy.

really you think one person answer.says what everybody else as found out.

discostu 31-08-2015 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtyson (Post 924049)
really you think one person answer.says what everybody else as found out.

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You know what buy it find out for yourself

dikke hond 31-08-2015 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtyson (Post 924030)
When would you run the weight system on the back

The post from Neal answers your question.:)

Allan1875 01-09-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtyson (Post 924049)
really you think one person answer.says what everybody else as found out.

How to win friends and influence people.

Neil is correct, low traction conditions when you need more weight over the rear of the car. I run the alloy mount in high grip conditions without the weight as the plastic part bends when you tighten the screws into it and I don't like that.

redtyson 01-09-2015 02:50 PM

Neil thank you for your reply.

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fastinfastout 18-10-2015 12:44 PM

I havn't tried this yet, but I'm curious to hear if the weights on the rear would make it 'worse'. I have heard having weights right at the very back, or anywhere behind the rear axle, can have a negative effect.....acting as a pendulum.....may as run rear mount!

skyaflake 19-10-2015 07:59 AM

Make what worse? For some, the YZ-2 can feel a bit loose on the rear. This is because the engine is much up front and mounted very low. A very different weight distribution compared to the B-Max2. I don't get it that people like to add a shitload of weight on the rear. The steel/brass hangers (maybe with a bit of weight near the motor) do add more than enough weight to the car imo. The YZ-2 is so fast because the car has great rotation, which makes it fast in turns. The B-Max2 is a more easier car to drive with, but a bit slower than the YZ-2.

Try the car without weights first, maybe it suits you. Else try to add some weight under the battery. If that doesn't work, add weight to the rear. I you feel the rear is loose, try to change your shock settings first.

fastinfastout 19-10-2015 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by skyaflake (Post 929381)
Make what worse? For some, the YZ-2 can feel a bit loose on the rear. This is because the engine is much up front and mounted very low. A very different weight distribution compared to the B-Max2. I don't get it that people like to add a shitload of weight on the rear. The steel/brass hangers (maybe with a bit of weight near the motor) do add more than enough weight to the car imo. The YZ-2 is so fast because the car has great rotation, which makes it fast in turns. The B-Max2 is a more easier car to drive with, but a bit slower than the YZ-2.

Try the car without weights first, maybe it suits you. Else try to add some weight under the battery. If that doesn't work, add weight to the rear. I you feel the rear is loose, try to change your shock settings first.

rear traction

Paultje040 19-10-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 929382)
rear traction

No it doesn't make rear traction "worse".

You should really try stuff yourself, don't go on what others say or think, And then question what has been said.................

Test, test, test.

I like my YZ2 with the alu mount, and didn't notice the +6gr over the plastic part.

Adding weight on different places on the chassis has will all have different affects on traction. (corner entry, exit, mid-corner, on power, off-power)

Setup is VERY personal. You probably don't like the way i setup my car. I definitely don't like the way Lee Martin sets up his..............

fastinfastout 19-10-2015 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paultje040 (Post 929384)
No it doesn't make rear traction "worse".

You should really try stuff yourself, don't go on what others say or think, And then question what has been said.................

Test, test, test.

I like my YZ2 with the alu mount, and didn't notice the +6gr over the plastic part.

Adding weight on different places on the chassis has will all have different affects on traction. (corner entry, exit, mid-corner, on power, off-power)

Setup is VERY personal. You probably don't like the way i setup my car. I definitely don't like the way Lee Martin sets up his..............

how does lee's setup drive in your hands?

skyaflake 19-10-2015 01:00 PM

I guess: crap. Setup is very personal.

fastinfastout 19-10-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skyaflake (Post 929419)
I guess: crap. Setup is very personal.

yes I agree with setup is personal

I don't look at pro setups any longer.

I take advice here and there, but rather study and learn car setup myself.

skyaflake 19-10-2015 02:03 PM

I use other drivers' setups for inspiration. That's it.:thumbsup:

neallewis 20-10-2015 01:24 AM

For me, on rubber gym floor low traction tracks I use +12g on rear bulkhead and it really helps with traction and grip. certainly doesn't make the car "worse". I already have 25g under motor, no front weight, and 25g plate in cut out under lipo. I found adding much more weight to the car "worse" on low to medium traction, so front and larger underlipo weights. loosing these, and weight placement as I described works best for me.
Now on medium/high grip astro I loose the +12g rear weight, its "worse" in this situation. I also use either +11g front bulkhead insert weight, or swap to the steel. I've also used the plate in front of servo, but generally prefer it without.

More serious weight changes also require damper oil and spring adjustments. overloading a car with weight and not making the right adjustments could it "worse"

Its all subjective, and changes are track appropriate. Team setups may have worked on that day at that track, but may not be right for you on the day at your track. test the options and weight placements yourself at your local track, and judge what makes an improvement, or makes it "worse".


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