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mark christopher 15-10-2014 08:23 PM

NEW supastox GT
 
http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...paStox_GT.html

Features http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...ages/pixel.gif http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...ages/pixel.gif
  • 2 Kit Options Available;
    K154 - SupaStox GT Kit - S1/Diff
    K157 - SupaStox GT Kit - C/F

  • NEW - Lightweight Low Centre of Gravity CNC Alloy Motor Mounts.
  • NEW - Pivot Ball Rear End with Front to Back Tube Damper for Improved Bump Riding.
  • NEW - Adjustable Rear Ride Height Via Rear Axle Adjusters.
  • NEW - Adjustable Front Ride Height on King Pin.
  • NEW - Rear Tweak and Roll Stiffness Adjustment via springs and spring position.
  • NEW - Adjustable Rear Droop with droop screws.
  • NEW - Adjustable Front Droop screws.
  • NEW - Shorter, Narrower and stiffer 2.5mm Carbon Fibre or 2.5mm S1 Composite Chassis.
  • NEW - Small Kimbrough Servo Saver with Strengthener Included As Standard for improved Steering Geometry.
  • NEW - Lightweight Front Foam Bumper and Mounting For Great Protection.
  • NEW - Included Ball Bearing Front Wheels.
  • NEW - Tweak Free Battery Mounting with Tape. Option Battery Strap Available.
  • NEW - CNC Brass Weight Position on Rear Pod for Better Balance.
  • NEW - Chassis Weight Balance Pivot Holes. For Use With U3582 Pivot Set.
  • NEW - Adjustable Ackerman with Washers.
  • NEW - Pivot Front Suspension With Camber, Castor, Droop And Toe-in/out Adjustment.
  • NEW - Improved Ground Clearance Rear Body Mounting.
  • NEW - Multiple Servo Mounting Positions.
  • 70T 48 dp High Efficiency Spur as Standard.
  • Chassis accepts 1S or 2S Shorty.
  • CNC Alloy Drive Dog Outputs For Precision And Durability.
  • CNC High Tensile, Stainless Steel Rear Axle.
  • High Tensile, Stainless Steel Suspension Pivots.
  • Hign Tensile Steel Hex Screws Used Throughout.
  • Adjustable Steering Turnbuckles Included As Standard.
  • Ball Raced Rear Axle With Rubber Sealed Bearings.
  • High Quality Easy to Follow Instruction Manual.
  • Large Range Of Optional 32 and 48dp Spur Gears.
  • Fully Adjustable Body Mount System.
  • Contact Pre-glued And Trued Foam Tyres Included, 35sh Rear and 47sh Front.
  • Full Range Of Optional Colour Coded Springs.
  • Accepts A Huge Range Of Industry Standard Bodyshells, Motors, Batteries, And Speed Controllers.
  • Torsional Side Damping Adjusted with 'O' Rings or Speed Secret Optional Tube Dampers.






http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...T_FTQ_1000.jpg

whittaker52 15-10-2014 09:52 PM

Some very interesting upgrades! Some of which look like they might be backwards compatible. The car definitely looks much leaner and it should be a great out of the box racer.

mark christopher 16-10-2014 01:09 PM

Different and front end is about it. Body posts are in same posistion so current painted shells will fit ok

whittaker52 16-10-2014 03:38 PM

The rear body mounts look like they might be a little further back on the GT over the original supastox? I'll definitely be ordering a few parts (seeing as i've only just got my 1S recently) when they become available, probably the front beam, new rear spring hanger, bumper mounts, steering posts, spring mouldings and possibly the new top damper.

mark christopher 16-10-2014 08:48 PM

trust me they ARE in the same place.... might be one to look at at worksop this sunday ;-)

not sure all the parts will fit you want as looks like the pod width may be different as the top plate U3961 is replaced by a different part U4653 now as the pics look the same it could be assumed they are different hole centres, and the damper will defiantly not work as there is no fixed pivot on the front of your pod, take your top link off and try it, the pod will lift up and have no control

whittaker52 16-10-2014 09:42 PM

Hmmmmmm I think you might be right about the rear pod width. Most of the parts bar the left hand drive dog are the same, but then you also need to take the eccentric bearing holders into account, which might take a little bit of extra space away, so may make it slight narrower, but it won't be by a huge amount, but probably just enough to make it not work at all. You're spot on about the rear pivot mount too, I really didn't think that one through!

i've also been flicking through the new build manual, and noticed that the front beam is lowered too, by about 2.5mm if you build as per the build insutructions, giving a reduced castor angle, along with no o-ring, I guess to shift the focus onto the droop screws for finer control/set up.

Bernie_W 16-10-2014 09:50 PM

new gt12
 
Are these in stock yet and which would be the better kit cf or s1
Bernie

Wynney 17-10-2014 09:25 AM

Looks good, I wonder what will be next from Mardave and when the other new cars will be out?

mark christopher 17-10-2014 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie_W (Post 881653)
Are these in stock yet and which would be the better kit cf or s1
Bernie

No only pre order, at moment, it depends if you want a diff or carbon composite chassis

Danosborne6661 17-10-2014 11:06 AM

Bernie, if you haven't got a Supastox go for the composite with diff.

Having a diff will make a much bigger difference than having a carbon chassis :) OR you could buy the carbon Supastox and add a diff.

Chequered Flag Racing 18-10-2014 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 881564)
Body posts are in same posistion so current painted shells will fit ok

:thumbsup:

If only the LMP12's were the same from brand to brand

Chequered Flag Racing 18-10-2014 07:01 AM

Is the central 'long gurb screw' a guide in the rubber bush? Bush won't last long if it sliding up and down like the Mardave pod

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...r_Sus_1000.jpg

s smith 18-10-2014 07:22 AM

Supastox gt
 
This car was at our local club last night looks pretty cool

Dombrasky 18-10-2014 09:33 AM

@Glenn
its a central droop screw(fixed),you can use the ones each side, or in the middle

Chequered Flag Racing 18-10-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dombrasky (Post 881815)
@Glenn
its a central droop screw(fixed),you can use the ones each side, or in the middle

OK. Can now see the bottom of it to left of m3 nut

Chequered Flag Racing 18-10-2014 11:31 AM

If you can't wait for Mark's review check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1zD_xu7BwA

catman79 12-11-2014 02:42 PM

i cant quite get my head round why the most two desirable options aren't available in the same kit, i.e carbon chassis and the diff, this seems like a blatant money grabbing opportunity on schumacher's behalf. i might be a mile of the mark, but can someone explain?

Chequered Flag Racing 12-11-2014 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catman79 (Post 885722)
i cant quite get my head round why the most two desirable options aren't available in the same kit, i.e carbon chassis and the diff,

As a kit it has to retail for under £100 to be eligable for BRCA sanctioned meetings. Add the the cost of a full carbon chassis and you go over the limit.

You can do what Mardave do and sell another kit with the carbon chassis, diff and other upgrades for over £100 and still be legal as the new kit contains a kit that's within the price limit.

Under £100
http://www.mardave.co.uk/rc-car-kits...-kit-1933.html

Over £100
http://www.mardave.co.uk/rc-car-kits...-kit-1934.html

SlowOne 12-11-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 881794)
:thumbsup:

If only the LMP12's were the same from brand to brand

Que? The GT12s aren't the same brand to brand, but all the AE 12R5s are the same body post holes for the same brand just like the SS & GT.

SlowOne 12-11-2014 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catman79 (Post 885722)
i cant quite get my head round why the most two desirable options aren't available in the same kit, i.e carbon chassis and the diff, this seems like a blatant money grabbing opportunity on schumacher's behalf. i might be a mile of the mark, but can someone explain?

As stated by Glen, it's a trade between the cost of a carbon chassis or a diff.

The SS was S1 composite and went well, so I think the kit with the diff and S1 chassis will be the ideal choice for lots of people. Good marketing from Schumacher.

Just got mine and started the build. Good quality, well presented kit, excellent instructions and easy to follow with all the kit bags relating directly to the instructions. If it goes as good as it looks and builds it will be another hit from the guys in Northampton.


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