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Jean-Christophe 03-11-2008 10:04 AM

EFRA AGM - any feedback?
 
Hi there,

This week-end, the EFRA AGM has taken place in France.

Has anyone some feedback of the discussions on the big points : LiPos legalized? etc etc...

Thanks a lot

JC

PS : I didn t know where to store this thread, feel free to move to the appropriate sectio.

bbq 03-11-2008 03:27 PM

Lipo's are aproved

Lee 03-11-2008 03:29 PM

I heard the food was a disappointment :thumbdown:

Tral 04-11-2008 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 174761)
I heard the food was a disappointment :thumbdown:

I think you have bad information. Food was very good, much more better than in last year.

Lipo approved, from what i remembe max capacity 5500.

I have all my papers in home.
If you like i can write you tomorrow which proposal passed.

SHY 04-11-2008 07:36 AM

Yes, please keep us posted! :thumbsup:

Any more details on LiPos? From what date? Dimensions? For all classes?

Northy 04-11-2008 08:53 AM

Didn't you go Shy? :confused:

G

Lee 04-11-2008 09:01 AM

Maybe he got all shy :woot:

SHY 04-11-2008 09:27 AM

Elvo once sent me a T-shirt stating "I'm shy but I've got a big d***!" :lol:

No, I'm not in the federation now. Only guys from there can go.

I've been to a couple before when I was in the federation. And once as a "consultant" for the federation.

elvo 04-11-2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 174996)
Elvo once sent me a T-shirt stating "I'm shy but I've got a big d***!" :lol:

:-D Found that shirt in Mexico.

Your Lipo proposal passed. Minutes soon to be posted on the EFRA website.

Chrislong 04-11-2008 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 175000)
:-D Found that shirt in Mexico.

Your Lipo proposal passed. Minutes soon to be posted on the EFRA website.

Cool,
Can somebody link to the minutes in here once available.

Are those T-shirts still available? Or can Piespeed print some? :thumbsup:

_sleigh_ 04-11-2008 10:23 AM

AGM Minutes normally appear here - http://www.efra.ws/agm_page.html

Saying that it looks like 2007 minutes are still to be uploaded :(

elvo 04-11-2008 10:24 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/I'M-SHY-BUT-I'VE...02107006r12239

Tral 04-11-2008 10:31 AM

Final race calendar:
10-15.08.2009 EC Spain Bilbao



Proposed rule to read

Appendix 3C 3.2
Existing Rule :
3.2 European Championships: The organizer will propose a 2 types of tyre for the 2WD rear axle and the 4WD rear axle. The manufacturer and full description of the tyres chosen must be given but there remains free choice of compound. The proposed tyre choice will be ratified at the EFRA section AGM prior to the EC and provided always that the chosen tyres are commercially available throughout the EFRA Nations.



Amend to:-
3.2 European Championships: The organizer will propose 1 type of tyre for each of the driven axles for 2WD and 4WD (2WD and 4WD do not have to be the same type of tyre). The manufacturer and full description of the tyres chosen must be given, but there remains free choice of compound. The proposed tyre choice will be ratified at the EFRA section AGM prior to the EC and provided always that the chosen tyres are commercially available throughout the EFRA Nations. The manufacturer(s) of the chosen tyres will be notified which specific tyre has been chosen as soon as the decision is finalised.


Passed 17 and 1 absention






















Appendix 3C 5

Existing Rule :
5. Body shell holes/vents: The front and rear ends of the shell must retain some of the original profile of the two ends of the shell. Front and rear facing areas within the body shell surface which are 'marked' with the intention of removal to form ”air scoops/ vents“ are allowed to be removed. In addition, if no ”marked“ air scoops/vents are designed in the original mould, in the immediate proximity of the motor or ESC, then material may be removed to a maximum of 10 mm in any direction within a maximum square area of developed size 30 mm x 30 mm, in two places only. Windows are not allowed to be removed or include holes, other than for the purpose of the antenna.

Amend to :-
5. Body shell holes/vents: The front and rear ends of the shell must retain some of the original profile of the two ends of the shell. Front and rear facing areas within the body shell surface which are 'marked' with the intention of removal to form ”air scoops/ vents“ are allowed to be removed. If no ”marked“ air scoops/vents are designed in the original mould to assist airflow to the motor or ESC, then material may be removed to a maximum of 10 mm. in any direction within a maximum square area of developed size 30 mm x 30 mm, in two places only. Windows are not allowed to be removed or include holes, other than for the purpose of the antenna.




Passed Unanimously


















THE RULE SHOULD BE AMENDED TO READ (PARTICULAR 1/10 OFFRAOD)
3.3 1/10 Off-Road cars will be driven by a maximum of six cells. EFRA approved Lithium Polymer batteries may be used as an option for this class. See Appendix 10 for specifications.

Proposed by: NMF/RC Norway




Passed Unanimously

SHY 04-11-2008 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elvo (Post 175000)
Your Lipo proposal passed

Mark, can you read this? :p

Lee 04-11-2008 11:02 AM

Louder Louder !!! :lol:

dan_kitty 04-11-2008 11:06 AM

sp have lipos been approved?

jim76 04-11-2008 11:44 AM

what is the appendix 10 spec?

mark christopher 04-11-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 175057)
Mark, can you read this? :p

did you rule not state no dimensions?

if so whats an efra aproved pack and whats See Appendix 10 for specifications.

ill say well done when i know what that bit means:lol:

mac 04-11-2008 12:29 PM

The original rule that was proposed (by Norway)had no dimensions but it did have the 5000mah rule so I'm guessing some of this has been changed in appendix 10

Tral 04-11-2008 12:56 PM

In short version:

Lenght 139mm
Width 47mm
Height 23,5mm Additional chassis protrusions are allowed.

The case must have original suppliers label intact, stating the rated voltage and the pack capacity. Maximum capacity is 5,500mah. The Brand name/logo shall be easily readable.

LiPo batteries may be charged to a maximum of 8,40V. Overcharged will not be tolerated.

Any competitor found to have charged LiPo cells above 8,4V will be disqualified from the event.


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