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jimmy 20-10-2008 01:55 PM

LRP VTEC LiPo 5100 saddle pack
 
LRP sent us news of their new saddle pack lipo. Along with the huge capcity and high discharge rate, the lipo also features a low profile to fit most cars. LRP say 'ALL' saddle-formation off road cars are a direct fit - though the pre-wired link wire could be a little short in some cases from the looks of it.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/lrp5100.jpg
LRP continues to expand its Competition Car Line LiPo packs with this new 28C 5100 saddle pack. Developed for extreme power delivery and runtime. Just charge and drive. Now anyone can enjoy the easy use and performance benefits of this new technology. This pack is specially designed to perfectly fit r/c models with a 6-cell saddle pack chassis design. More and more countries are allowing LiPo batteries for racing and LRP is able to offer the perfect LiPo battery for every racing class. This saddle pack fits every 1/10 pan car as well as every 1/10 electric Off-Road car using this battery.

More information on the LRP site HERE

niggs98 20-10-2008 03:08 PM

look good but two question's ....................... are they hard cased and isnt the brca going to limit capacity to 5000mah ?????? :wtf:

Bungleaio 20-10-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 170136)
Developed for extreme power delivery

Surely tamiya connectors aren't the best then, I remember melting one backing the day of 1400's

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Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 170154)
look good but two question's ....................... are they hard cased and isnt the brca going to limit capacity to 5000mah ?????? :wtf:

I was thinking that too.

_sleigh_ 20-10-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 170154)
are they hard cased

Doens't look like it from the photo, but another angle might say different.

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Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 170154)
isnt the brca going to limit capacity to 5000mah ?????? :wtf:

That'll be for discusion by the Electric Board (probably at AGM time). I would have thought it will be left at 5000mAh, as it's down to the construction of the cell and Lithium content (my understanding anyway)

No doubt we'll hear more after this weekend.

Chris Doughty 20-10-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bungleaio (Post 170157)
Surely tamiya connectors aren't the best then, I remember melting one backing the day of 1400's

there is no 'industry standard' high amp power connectors, the Taimya connectors act as 2 functions

- stop the wires shorting out in the packet
- allow Jonny RTR to use the cells straight out of the packet

_sleigh_ 20-10-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 170154)
are they hard cased
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Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 170158)
Doens't look like it from the photo, but another angle might say different.


Actually, looking at the photo again, it does look like the case might be the same transparent blue plastic as the 5300mAh stick pack. :thumbsup:

jimmy 20-10-2008 03:31 PM

The wording made me think they were heat shrinked not hard cased but I could be wrong (and probably am)
What's the idea of the capacity limit? At the weekend I was taking about 1000mah out of the cells in a run in 4WD with the Trakpower 3200mah saddles. Obviously this would be more outdoors on a bigger track with more grip - but surely no one would ever use 5000mah in off road?

Chris Doughty 20-10-2008 03:38 PM

I thought it was something to do with snakes on a plane... on no, hold on, sorry, something about the amount of Lithium per 'cell' thats allowed on a plane... at least thats what I thought I heard... :eh?:

bigred5765 20-10-2008 03:43 PM

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looks like heat shrink to me, if you go the the lrp web site and look at the images you can see the edge of the heatshrink

Bungleaio 20-10-2008 03:45 PM

The track power ones are heat shrunk too but have the hard case underneath

bigred5765 20-10-2008 03:49 PM

ahh right ok

niggs98 20-10-2008 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bungleaio (Post 170175)
The track power ones are heat shrunk too but have the hard case underneath


hope thats what they are as they look damn good and also sub c sized :thumbsup:

Answer-RC-Pete 20-10-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bungleaio http://www.oople.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
The track power ones are heat shrunk too but have the hard case underneath
Not sure about that. Im pretty certain the TP cells are hard cased externally. The Maxamps ones I think that may be the case though.

discostu 20-10-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 170165)
The wording made me think they were heat shrinked not hard cased but I could be wrong (and probably am)
What's the idea of the capacity limit? At the weekend I was taking about 1000mah out of the cells in a run in 4WD with the Trakpower 3200mah saddles. Obviously this would be more outdoors on a bigger track with more grip - but surely no one would ever use 5000mah in off road?

i think it has something t do with mah and c rating the higher the mah the lower the c rating can be to get the same max or adv amp so a higher mah and higher c rating the better thats my understanding of it.

OldTimer 20-10-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 170165)
At the weekend I was taking about 1000mah out of the cells in a run in 4WD with the Trakpower 3200mah saddles. Obviously this would be more outdoors on a bigger track with more grip - but surely no one would ever use 5000mah in off road?

I have managed to get the 3200mah trackpowers pretty hot on a high grip track using a 4.5 and almost dump them:o . I think around 4000mah capacity or a higher C rating would be good, and pretty much cover any motor / driver in a 5 minute race.

Lowie 20-10-2008 09:17 PM

should these fit in a Pred?


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Transparent wrapping for direct view on the inside of the battery[/quote
Isn't reasuring about being hard-cased!

jimmy 20-10-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 170203)
I have managed to get the 3200mah trackpowers pretty hot on a high grip track using a 4.5 and almost dump them:o . I think around 4000mah capacity or a higher C rating would be good, and pretty much cover any motor / driver in a 5 minute race.

I've seen you drive so I can believe it :woot: I'd do 2 races on the same pack and still have power to drive home. :D
I've raced the 3200mah stick back to back against the 4900mah trakpowers and the C rating certainly makes a difference - I prefer the lower C rating:thumbsup:

OldTimer 20-10-2008 10:02 PM

If these lrp lipos have no lugs on the bottom then they are illegal according to the proposed efra rules for lipos (max height 23.5mm, 25mm if location protrusions are included). These are 25mm and i guess with a flat bottom, also rules out the 4800mah trackpower saddles as well :( as they are 30mm high.

Also the 3200 trakpower would be illegal as they are to long :( if we were racing to efra rules of course.

Higher C rating is better jimmy :thumbsup:

bigred5765 20-10-2008 10:38 PM

and i think would look sweet in our x5, cant wait

Garry Driffill 20-10-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 170203)
I have managed to get the 3200mah trackpowers pretty hot on a high grip track using a 4.5 and almost dump them:o . I think around 4000mah capacity or a higher C rating would be good, and pretty much cover any motor / driver in a 5 minute race.


J, Did that happen to be at Belgium you did that? - I remember youre car tonning a fair bit round the track! then drop to a slow for no apparent reason late on into the race when the English was stood waching near were you was pitting?


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