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Charger 19-02-2014 06:08 PM

Speed Passion GT 2.0 LPF motor limit
 
Hi everyone, I have a Speed Passion GT 2.0 LPF and was wondering if I could run it with a 5.5t motor in a touring car with timing advance, turbo etc without blowing the speedo up.
I know it says in the manual that it can handle down to a 5.5 with 6 cell/2S but I'm not sure if this is meant for a different car e.g a 2WD buggy or if it's only supposed to be ran with zero timing.

Col 19-02-2014 08:58 PM

I await correction from better people, but I didn't think the LPF had timing?

Chris56 19-02-2014 09:01 PM

Looking at the manual its down to 6.5t on 2s LIPO. Motor limit is a guideline, speedo will take 80a continuously so I would say a 5.5t with advanced timing and boost will probably draw too much current for esc to comfortably handle. If you had the pro model however, id say no problem.

Incidentally, a boosted 5.5 in tc will absolutely fly!!!

Charger 19-02-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 839401)
Looking at the manual its down to 6.5t on 2s LIPO. Motor limit is a guideline, speedo will take 80a continuously so I would say a 5.5t with advanced timing and boost will probably draw too much current for esc to comfortably handle. If you had the pro model however, id say no problem.

Incidentally, a boosted 5.5 in tc will absolutely fly!!!

Hi there, it defiantly says 5.5 but it's for 6 cell NIMH but I though that would be roughly the same as 2S lipo?

Chris56 19-02-2014 09:51 PM

not quite - lipos operate at a slightly higher voltage and are able to deliver higher currents, hence why cars always perform better using lipos.

Charger 19-02-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 839416)
not quite - lipos operate at a slightly higher voltage and are able to deliver higher currents, hence why cars always perform better using lipos.

Hi again, would I be ok to run a 6.5t with boost etc?

Chris56 19-02-2014 10:13 PM

I've just looked at the manual again, is it definitely the std LPF and not the pro? as Col said above, I think you can advance the timing on the LPF but only the pro has boost.

If it is the pro you have, boost will not be a problem since they have a 200A limit

Charger 19-02-2014 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 839421)
I've just looked at the manual again, is it definitely the std LPF and not the pro? as Col said above, I think you can advance the timing on the LPF but only the pro has boost.

If it is the pro you have, boost will not be a problem since they have a 200A limit

Hi again, I forgot to say, it has updated software which allows it to have more settings and I'm nearly sure boost is one of them. Rather than having the standard 10 settings, it has the same as the reventon pro.

Chris56 19-02-2014 11:05 PM

Ah ok. Im no expert on the new SP firmware - I did own a GT2 pro with a 6.5T and never had a problem.

If boost has been added, I would be reluctant to use it with a 5.5t. This motor in un boosted form will be at the limit of your esc, so running boost will either burn it out or cause the thermal protection to kick in.

Charger 19-02-2014 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 839428)
Ah ok. Im no expert on the new SP firmware - I did own a GT2 pro with a 6.5T and never had a problem.

If boost has been added, I would be reluctant to use it with a 5.5t. This motor in un boosted form will be at the limit of your esc, so running boost will either burn it out or cause the thermal protection to kick in.

Ok, thanks for your help.

sosidge 20-02-2014 09:19 AM

5.5 with boost is beyond the recommended for the LPF (60A). Without boost is might be OK but 8.5T is the recommended limit for off-road without boost.

Charger 20-02-2014 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 839476)
5.5 with boost is beyond the recommended for the LPF (60A). Without boost is might be OK but 8.5T is the recommended limit for off-road without boost.

Hi there, does it say that in the manual?

sosidge 20-02-2014 04:31 PM

Hobbywing website.

Charger 20-02-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 839573)
Hobbywing website.

Is it the hobbywing xerun 60A because it says it can handle a 5.5 on 2S with on-road.

sosidge 20-02-2014 04:50 PM

Sorry, I assumed you were running off-road. 5.5 limit is for no boost, they suggest 8.5 for boost for the Xtreme stock (which is the same basic ESC in a smaller case).

Charger 20-02-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 839583)
Sorry, I assumed you were running off-road. 5.5 limit is for no boost, they suggest 8.5 for boost for the Xtreme stock (which is the same basic ESC in a smaller case).

Oh sorry I maybe didn't make it clear I would be running on-road, could I run timing with a 5.5 but no boost?

sosidge 20-02-2014 05:15 PM

What do you mean by timing? If you mean an ESC setting on the boost software then it is the same thing.

Charger 20-02-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 839589)
What do you mean by timing? If you mean an ESC setting on the boost software then it is the same thing.

Advanced timing on the ESC and manual timing on the motor, are timing and boost not different?

tyreman 20-02-2014 05:55 PM

Taken direct from speed passions website.
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...802LPFcb&c=ESC
Build in new Green Power Feature
Give you full time consistency power and longer run time!

Digital Racing Response System - DRRS
9 Selection Digital Racing Modes (From Level 1 to Level 9)

Advanced Mutli Timing System - AMTS
Special 8 mode brushless motor timing adjustment system
design suitable for differ brand brushless motor which give
you the best performance for both ESC and Motor

Standard Smart ESC Program Unit
Came with the ESC LED Display with 11 adjustable function

Leading Brushless ESC Spec
Support both sensored / sensorless brushless motor
Support up to 5.5T brushless motor on 6 cell 7.2V battery


If using software 323STOCK with any of the GT series speed controller, the included LED programmer box will not be compatible with the software/speed controller. Please purchase our LCD professional program cardPart No.# SPLCD01 in order to work with the software and the speed controller.

Maximum Current :
440A* Ouput

Dimension :
43 (L) x 35 (W) x 24 (H)

Charger 20-02-2014 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 839595)
Taken direct from speed passions website.
http://www.speedpassion.net/en/produ...802LPFcb&c=ESC
Build in new Green Power Feature
Give you full time consistency power and longer run time!

Digital Racing Response System - DRRS
9 Selection Digital Racing Modes (From Level 1 to Level 9)

Advanced Mutli Timing System - AMTS
Special 8 mode brushless motor timing adjustment system
design suitable for differ brand brushless motor which give
you the best performance for both ESC and Motor

Standard Smart ESC Program Unit
Came with the ESC LED Display with 11 adjustable function

Leading Brushless ESC Spec
Support both sensored / sensorless brushless motor
Support up to 5.5T brushless motor on 6 cell 7.2V battery


If using software 323STOCK with any of the GT series speed controller, the included LED programmer box will not be compatible with the software/speed controller. Please purchase our LCD professional program cardPart No.# SPLCD01 in order to work with the software and the speed controller.

Maximum Current :
440A* Ouput

Dimension :
43 (L) x 35 (W) x 24 (H)

So can I run a 5.5 with timing?


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