Clubman thoughts...
 

Hi chaps,

Let me preface this by saying that none of this is a moan, complaint, b*tch or anything of the sort.

I think that we can all agree that the Clubman has evolved to be a no slower than any other class. I know that all along people have had different ideas of what Clubman means and what the restrictions should be. Largely, I dislike the idea of restrictions and I prefer to operate in a manner where gentlemen behave like gentlemen and we all act accordingly without strict written rules to spoil the fun.

The idea that everyone needs to run a silvercan, or similarly slow motor, is something that should be ignored. The problem is that we are running very different cars, the tourers cannot keep up with the F1s if they run the same motor. I think we should all agree on that. This is where being a gentleman becomes important, we should agree that none of us will run a motor that produces uncontrollable power, some of us are running cars that have been out of production for a while or that are limited edition. Driving round the track with poor control because you are a beginner is acceptable, but doing the same because you have actively chosen to have a car with too much power is uncouth! The actions of a savage individual and as such it should be frowned upon.

To summarize, in my view Clubman is about a number of different things to different people: out of the ordinary cars, fun racing, scale Tamiya bodies, etc… But I propose that we all agree that the main thing Clubman stands for is gentlemanly behaviour and driving standards. A class where you can race your pride and joy knowing that everyone on track is doing their absolute best to drive in a controlled fashion... If someone isn't driving to that standard I simply propose we have a chat with them.

Your thoughts and ideas are welcome.

Yeah, I agree that uncontrollable power should be reserved for defined competitive classes and competitive chassis .... it wouldnt bother me either way if the clubman was resticted to silver cans. Just to touch apon the F1's my 6 wheeler has a Tamiya ESC and a Torque tuned with standard gearing and is plenty fast enough, however the standard gearing of the F104 does make them a fast class ... the BRCA for the class is 21.5 brushless which is what my pro has in it ...

I am only going to run the Tyrell now with the brushed set up in the clubman but am looking to have some fun with my TT01 with 27T brushed and the FF03 with 13T brushless to bring it back inline with what other are running, for me thats where the fun is ...

Scott

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Nice Mustang shell! 65 or 66? Got a pic of the grill? :)

As for the motor restriction I'd be against a restriction as long as we have mixed cars on the field, maybe something like silvercans for F1s and any sealed can for tourers to keep speeds close. Ideally though, no restriction for me, just people being sensible :)

The f1's are good to watch but are quicker in their std race trim.
The clubman class is aimed at mild motored cars, for newbies and the experienced driver.
I would like to keep the rules simple and down to the drivers of the class.

They certainly are! I enjoyed having two heats and being able to watch that 6 wheeler go round. AWESOME!

Perfect! :thumbsup:

I think the problem comes from difference in corner speed and driver skill,
Look at the GT12 all running the same motor battery and blinky,but its the most door banger class we have,

I think like Dave says its up to the drivers to make the class work

Tamiya tourers have a limit as to what motor they can run anyway due to their construction. Id rather see this class governed by common sense rather than rules/regulations, ie if your car is not "moderately paced" then it either doesn't run or needs detuning in some way. On the straight line speed front, my ff01 has a 13t brushless (£50 combo) and is as quick as a silver can F1 in a straight line.

So how about points for "Overtaking etiquette", for example allowing sufficient space between you and the slower driver, or "Planning ahead" by leaving a nice 2-second gap to the car in front? Penalties for tailgating and cutting up other drivers? Maybe you could race in pairs with one walking ahead of the car holding a red flag, and book in with gentlemanly names like "Sir Power" and "Baron Petch the 3rd"?
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Only problem is that if Clubman is about good driving standards then half of you lot should be barred! Especially Chris "The Petch" Petch.... :woot:

Charming! I only tailgate cars that car smaller than mine, just like in real life:lol:

Deal!

So who were the 2 other Baron Petches?

Its now done - see this week's pre-booking list

I am expecting the appropriate attire to go with the title. :thumbsup:

I've pre-booked for Off-Road at the moment but may switch to the Jag if I can find my cigars and sheepskin coat in time for Friday evening.

My humidor is always open for a fellow gentleman racer.

PS: And if you think that's a euphemism shame on you!

I'm down as The Rt Hon Earl "Slowchops" Power.

Perhaps I should turn up on friday wearing my Tweed jacket. Normally I just wear this for work (im a Lecturer afterall!!!!) but could wear it at the club along with my straw hat.

Does this mean that you will be coming as a scarecrow? :p

I think he meant more Panama hat than comedy style farmer's hat.

If Im coming as a scarecrow I would have pre-booked as Wurzal Gummage!

The Stig has booked in. Mmmmm.... Is that Lord Stig?