Schumacher CAT - Can anyone help with dates and models?
 

Hi all,

When I get my CAT SX I plan to do a nice review on it so I am starting early and getting bits done. However I need a little help please. My Schumacher 2WD knowledge is in my head but I'm a bit of a noob with the 4wd Schumacher CAT stuff.

I want to make a nice time-line for my review, only problem is I don't know if my list is complete and the dates and wins certainly aren't. So far I have:

*now updated thanks to Matt & Ulrich :-)*

1986 - Schumacher CAT
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1987 - Schumacher CAT XLS - (Worlds & Euro win)
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1989 - Schumacher Procat - (Euro win)
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1991 - Schumacher Procat SE - (any Euro or Worlds?)
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1992 - Schumacher Bosscat - (any Euro or Worlds?)
***** New chassis *****
1993 - Schumacher CAT 2000 - (Euro Win)
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1995 - Schumacher CAT EC - (Euro Win)
\/\/\/\/\/ developed into \/\/\/\/\/
1997 - Schumacher CAT SE - (any Euro or Worlds?)
***** New chassis *****
1997 - Schumacher CAT 98 - (any Euro or Worlds?)
***** New chassis *****
2000 - Schumacher CAT 3000 - (any Euro or Worlds?)
***** New chassis *****
2008 - Schumacher CAT SX

Any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Ok, i'll take a stab at this (quite sad that i know it - but hey ho!!)

Think there was a "Cat XL" between the origonal car and the XLS. Romsey worlds that Masami won was 87 i think, not sure on car spec, but don't think it was SWB.

Procat was late '89 i think at launch. I seem to remember there being a "Procat SE" that had a slipper clutch and the then "new" Vari shocks. I'm gonna guess 91, but not sure.

I think Bosscat was 92, and followed by "Bosscat Works" in early 93.

Cat 2000 was launched in something like October of 93. Think there was an un-oficial "94 spec" that had a few revisions quite early on. Cat EC was 95, just before start of outdoor season i think. Think Craig won a Euros in Rauma, Finland with EC.

Cat SE came early 97 i think, basiclaly an EC with new diffs, driveshafts and shorter front shocks (which didn't work!!!). Cat 98 then came late 97 i think - for the 98 season!! Back to EC front end, but side saddle chassis.

Cat 3000 came around 2000 i think. Not really a development of the 98. Only bits really carried over were diffs and driveshafts i think. There was then a revision after a year or so with longer shocks and revised chassis. No one in UK ran the longer shocks!

I mean Masami win 1987 worlds with a XLS prototype

I am not sure, Phil Davids Euro Champ 1987 with CAT?

Stefan Oberle from Germany winning 1989 Euros in Sweden with a XLS, maybe with Topcat (procat) reararms. Stefan was very unlucky to get his gear and cars stolen just before the race, the Schumacher Team help him with a another car.

Procat is released late 1989

Phil Davis 1990 Euro champ. ProCat?

BossCat released 1992

Jukka Steenaari 1996 and 1997 Euro Champion with CAT2000

Scroll down on this link and see the hall of fame
http://www.ymr.no/hf1_10or.htm

Matt, as always you are a star.

Thank you. You have pretty much filled it all in for me. I have now updated with the missing bits and pieces :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Sorry Ulrich, you posted while I was typing reply to Matt. I did not mean to ignore you.

Thank you so much for your help, I have updated with the info you have added :):)

Jason, see below. There may be errors in this list, and there will be championship wins missing..... Dates in red need confirming by someone with a better knowledge of recent cars - Matt W. maybe?

1986 SWB CAT T400 £175
1987 CAT XL 4wd T401 £175 '87 World champion winner (Masami Hirosaksa)
1988 CAT XLS T403 £175
1989 Procat U409N £180 1990 Euro Champ (Phil Davies)
1992 Bosscat Competition Spec U440S £240 ROAR, UK, Scandinavian National champion, 3rd in Euros (Ben Sturnham) '93
1993 CAT 2000 U460M £249 Released October '93. 2nd (Kevin Moore) & 3rd (William Mitcham) '93 Worlds. Euro 1995 winner (Craig Drescher)
1995 CAT 2000 EC U498Y £299 CAT 2000 with new shell, sus. Geometry & laydown shocks
1995 CAT 2000 ECS U401F £199 Sport cheap version of the EC (no slipper etc)
1997 CAT 2000 SE U408M £295 Based on spec of Jukka Steenari's 1996 Euro Champ car
1997 CAT '98 U421D £299 2nd/3rd place at '97 worlds
2000 CAT 3000 KO19X £240 Evolution of CAT 2000 series - Losi XX4 style layout (motor at front)
2002 CAT 3000 "EVO" KO19X £240 Long rr shocks, medium frt, cells further rearwards

championship wins off the Cat 2000

http://web.archive.org/web/199710140...om/cat2000.htm

Genius idea. I didn't think of checking the way-back machine (archive.org).

Thanks :thumbsup:

If you want a full list of all Schumachers buggies, 2wd, 4wd, trucks, etc then thanks to Minichamps11 the list is here
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.ph...rocat&start=19

There is one fault in the timeline.

The Fireblade Evo was already in use at the 99 euros in Finnland.
And I remember Teemu to use the prototype Car which featured a different gearbox which has never seen full production.

Cruise.(at the moment the last person to race a Fireblade at worlds.)

Yeah, cruse is correct - Evo prototype was done before the 98 Euros in Teeside - cos i had one!! and still have most of it actually. So i 'm sure production car would have been around for 99 season - in fact, i think i remember it, it missed our first national, but came just after.