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Npdp72 13-10-2013 11:34 AM

New Cougar at Silverstone Winter Series Rnd 1
 
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Well it was round 1 one of the Silverstone RCMCC Winter Masters Series yesterday.
An awesome event, with a lot of big names in attendance, further details of the series here:
http://www.silverstonercmcc.co.uk/wi...ters-13-14.php

And some photos of the racing here:
http://s210.photobucket.com/user/jwi...14%20Round%201
(And there will be more pics to follow, when I've been through my shots properly!)

Schumacher sponsor this series and many of the top Schumacher drivers were there, some running the new forward motor 2wd car seen at the worlds.
With the kind permission of Robin Schumacher I was allowed to take some closeup photos of Trish Neal's car.
Thanks to Robin and Trish!

Interestingly Trish's car features a shorty lipo layout with the belt routed over the top and a new front shock tower protector that sits in front of the carbon tower - looked neat and would add strength to the front of the car (and help protect Silverstone's precious astroturf!)
The other cars (Simon Moss, Lloyd Storey etc) were running saddle lipo layout I believe.

The cars looked very impressive on the track which was a combination of high grip astro and very low grip lino, with slippery hardboard jump / ripple features, and carpeted larger jumps and corner table top.
Simon and Lloyd made the A and Trish won the B final, I'm sure full results will be posted by SRCMCC soon.

So, here are the pics:

alex97 13-10-2013 12:10 PM

did they say when it would be out ?

mikeyscott 13-10-2013 12:19 PM

It looked very good! I had a chat with Robin and they hope soon, but I won 't say more than that.

I see they've move to HobbyWing too

Rich D 13-10-2013 01:36 PM

Nathan Waters TQd round 1 and qualified A3 with this new car too.

Arn0 13-10-2013 01:53 PM

There is some changes since the worlds championship.
If anyone want to compare: http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/sho...237#post542237

alex97 13-10-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 809290)
It looked very good! I had a chat with Robin and they hope soon, but I won 't say more than that.

I see they've move to HobbyWing too

did he say any thing about the price and this year or next ?

mikeyscott 13-10-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alex97 (Post 809370)
did he say any thing about the price and this year or next ?

Yes, but I'm not saying as it's not my place. A question to be emailed to Schumacher in my view.

Sorry, but I had a good chat with Robin, nice chap, but conversation specifics - private

alex97 13-10-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 809397)
Yes, but I'm not saying as it's not my place. A question to be emailed to Schumacher in my view.

Sorry, but I had a good chat with Robin, nice chap, but conversation specifics - private


OK thanks for what you could tell us :-)

RobW 14-10-2013 08:10 AM

Looks pretty much like a production car to me so would have thought they would want to get it out this side of Xmas??

The number of really cool looking car choices for next season is getting ridiculous:)

Tobamory 14-10-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by alex97 (Post 809370)
did he say any thing about the price and this year or next ?

Id say considering the layout and what the cars bringing to the Market.

The Cougar KR was £190, id hazard a guess they will price it higher at around the £239 mark maybe £259.

I doubt they would take it as high as the K1 but you never know.

Juicy74 14-10-2013 03:44 PM

Oooh I like the front shock cap and mount protection. Looks like it'll fit the sv2.
Finally no more undertray but I wish they would redesign that shell...

CARB 14-10-2013 04:51 PM

This seems to me as if you drive two wheel drive cars then you are going to need to have the three versions, rear motor for dirt, mid motor of medium to low grip Astro and forward motor for dry high grip Astro.

if the forward grip motor is specific for high grip does that mean if the track gets wet then it will as bad as a rear motor car on wet Astro compared to a mid motor car that is reasonable on low to high grip.

I guess if you race in doors then the weather does not come into the equation but for out side hmmmm!

Still if you can add weight to the FMP (forward motor position) to give the same response as a MMP (mid motor position) it may work, but then will you not have one heavy car.

Looks like the four wheel drive car will be the best option well less lay out possibilities unless some one starts messing with that.

mark christopher 14-10-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arn0 (Post 809303)
There is some changes since the worlds championship.
If anyone want to compare: http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/sho...237#post542237


Simon moss was running his car from the worlds (one in your link) at worksop on Sunday, looks like Simons car has the provision to fit a rear belt tensioner/router as Trish has, seeing how the mi5 has the option of running mid or rear motor I would guess this may be seen as an optional configuration to further tune the car

badger5 14-10-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 809604)
Simon moss was running his car from the worlds (one in your link) at worksop on Sunday, looks like Simons car has the provision to fit a rear belt tensioner/router as Trish has, seeing how the mi5 has the option of running mid or rear motor I would guess this may be seen as an optional configuration to further tune the car

Sounds interesting but any change to the motor position would require a different chassis due to the motor mount protruding through it.
I see the cars at the worlds was running CV style driveshafts whilst the car at Silverstone is running UJ's, what changes does this make to the handling or performance? I hope the car comes with a gear diff though.

Juicy74 15-10-2013 03:50 AM

Any videos of the race on youtube?

mark christopher 15-10-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger5 (Post 809633)
Sounds interesting but any change to the motor position would require a different chassis due to the motor mount protruding through it.
I see the cars at the worlds was running CV style driveshafts whilst the car at Silverstone is running UJ's, what changes does this make to the handling or performance? I hope the car comes with a gear diff though.

I'm talking belt and stubby saddle, not motor posistion, gear diff does fit. So will either be std or option.

dwp102 17-10-2013 11:38 AM

Nice to see Schumacher have finally got round to trying it...:thumbsup:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101831

CARB 18-10-2013 07:51 PM

I do not see the point of the front shock cover, yet another add on bit, with all the work changing the transmission that I suspect will be one of those fads as that they always say keep it simple, when a redesign of the front top bulkhead to have the top shock mount behind the shock tower would do the job better and move weight at the same time as reducing the part count for the car.

Mossy 19-10-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CARB (Post 810476)
I do not see the point of the front shock cover, yet another add on bit, with all the work changing the transmission that I suspect will be one of those fads as that they always say keep it simple, when a redesign of the front top bulkhead to have the top shock mount behind the shock tower would do the job better and move weight at the same time as reducing the part count for the car.

The shock tower protector isn't made by Schumacher, therefore not another 'add on' bit as you call it. Trish races at clubs where they try to protect the carpet from damage so this is a good idea in my opinion.

There aren't any confirmed details on the car as of yet. We are still very much at the prototype stage so parts are constantly changing as we develop for different surfaces etc.

knighthawk 19-10-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mossy (Post 810550)
The shock tower protector isn't made by Schumacher, therefore not another 'add on' bit as you call it. Trish races at clubs where they try to protect the carpet from damage so this is a good idea in my opinion.

There aren't any confirmed details on the car as of yet. We are still very much at the prototype stage so parts are constantly changing as we develop for different surfaces etc.

I really like the shock/tower protector.
I've tried to get my local TC Club to run buggies for years but the damage to the carpet due to shock nuts etc has always given a big fat NO

Plus less damage to the top of the shocks, great idea !
And less bodge it and scarper than a diy piece of cut off lexan


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