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jimmy 25-10-2006 10:52 PM

Tamiya Mini Rallying!
 
Tamiya Mini Rally !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzIVR...elated&search=

I guess this must be in Japan, only they are this crazy. I would love to race in a class like this, me and vicky both have cars. My Mini has a sump guard and ive experimented with cut down off road tyres for it. Just wish there was somewhere to race!
:)

Jimbo 26-10-2006 06:57 AM

Hey Jimmy,
Spotted this as well, check http://www.rc-mini.net for more, apparently mini t tyres are the go on the mini wheels..

Wish for extra miney to have a go, got a mini ball diff sitting waiting!

Cheers,

James

DCM 26-10-2006 09:42 AM

thats ACE!!!

PaulRotheram 27-10-2006 12:00 AM

It's even funnier when drunk. i'd love to try them!

xx4-nutter 27-10-2006 09:01 AM

ha ha ha ha thats one of the best things ive seen in ages lol !

simon 05-11-2006 02:09 PM

Any RC club want to set up a tamiya mini rally race day next year??!!!!.....i'd be up for it!!!!!

cheers simon

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 01:22 AM

And Hello to all..

Seems that I'm the silly bugger thats behind rc-mini.net and sadly I also have to put my hand up for starting some of this Rally Mini nonsense too!

I gotta tell you the whole Rally Mini thing is some of the best fun we've EVER had. At the first meeting the entire track was ringed with people watching and pissing themselves with laughter - us included!

The cars are just NOT suited to this treatment but they are just so much fun... I leave my buggy at home now and just take my mini....

Tony

simon 06-11-2006 11:40 AM

Hi tony,

great site you have there!!!....just wondering are the HPI tyres 4565 easy to get where you are??..because in the UK they are very hard to get hold of...i have a few sets,and like you say,onroad they are hard to beat!!
cheers simon.

jimmy 06-11-2006 11:45 AM

yea excellent stuff. I used to give my mini hell, they can take a real bashing. My mini had a metal sump guard to stop the front of the gearbox from cracking when it scraped along the ground hitting stuff.

I'd be up for some mini rallying for sure

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 07:56 PM

We use lexan sump guards and they seem to do the job well enough. My own car has done 2 meetings and 2 full practice sessions so far and hasn't broken a thing. And even better, the Proline RC18 Mini Bowties still look as good as when they started!

As for the HPI X pattern onroad tyres, well they are available here in Oz, but the locally imported ones SUCK. For some reason (we dont know why) there seems to be a difference between the export quality tyres and the local (Jap only) ones.
So, we import our own tyres....

jimmy 06-11-2006 08:05 PM

What are the mini bowties like ? do they fit without modifications ?
I have toyed with 2WD front schumacher tyres, just cut a few rows out and glue back together and they are good. not driven with them yet. the side wall is a bit high compared to normal, so I guess it could have clearance issues.

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 08:13 PM

Buy em, glue em on (to normal mini rims) As easy as that. They go straight on. And you use the inserts that come with the tyres.
It really is that simple. We tried a lot of other tyres as well but these are just brilliant (for our conditions I hasten to add)

And for those who havent been to our website yet to see Rally Mini in action, go here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrBk_FAb_Yw

Tony

jimmy 06-11-2006 09:14 PM

We dont really have any tracks like that but the pattern doesnt look bad so I might try some.
I'll post some photos of the schumacher tyres when Iv'e got a full set on the car

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 09:41 PM

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In which case, here are some alternatives then...

simon 06-11-2006 11:29 PM

Hi Tony,
Have you tried the proline dirt hawg 1116 tyres???

Cheers simon.

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 11:43 PM

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Not personally, but one of the other guys (Dave) has used them with some success. I think they'd be better for UK tracks than they are for here. Our tracks tend to be rock hard dirt so the tiny pins work better, well for me anyway.

jimmy 06-11-2006 11:48 PM

I was just looking at the Grahoo website again, I really wanna race my mini now. Might go find some alloy knuckles since they are about the only bit that breaks. Do you use the ball diff?

Tony Gray 06-11-2006 11:59 PM

None of us use the ball diffs. We stick to gear diffs with some seriously thick grease inside.
The reason? The only achilles heel of the M03 offroad is that dirt gets into the transmission and eats the gears alive (unless you seal it really well like I do) And you dont want to be replacing ball diffs all the time.
Plus...the limiting factor is grip more than anything else and to be honest none of us can tell the difference between a ball diff and a gear diff when we're rallying.

jimmy 07-11-2006 12:15 AM

When I used to run my M03 I noticed it would diff out a lot when turning and lose momentum. I guess thick grease (tamiya anti wear ??) would be just as good though.

Tony Gray 07-11-2006 12:22 AM

Offroad it doesnt make much difference either way Jimmy because the tyres are without doubt the main limiting factor in M03 rally. Even with Sport-tuned motors its wheelspin all the way.
The 'diffing-out' problem that you used to have is VERY apparent in on-road racing but can be minimised with better suspension setup.


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