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extrememacko 18-05-2013 04:56 PM

Dangerous connection?
 
Hello all;

I was wondering if any one could offer advice.

I am running nimh cells, not lipo and I have soldered the cells to the motor and speedo, so no deans or any other type of connectors are used. I have also soldered the speedo on off switch lead together so it is always on, so everything is always on and connected. If I then charge the cells with everything hooked up would it damage the speedo in any way?

Thanks!

DCM 18-05-2013 05:29 PM

Just for starters that is unsafe plus leaving your batteries permanently connected and on will kill your batteries.

buggy#0 18-05-2013 05:37 PM

Have to say that is pretty dangerous (and definetely brca illegal). De-solder it all as soon as you can, if you tried charging and keeping it on like that I would run for cover!

dpackster1980 18-05-2013 05:54 PM

Very bad indeed, you can't equalize the cells when they are in the car and because of the minute fallback allowed per cell is 0.03 volt. After a couple of runs they won't be equal voltage and when you charge you've a couple of cells that will peak early so they'll get over charged. They will either vent and be ruined or explode.

NIMH cells are useless, unstable and can be hell of a lot more dangerous than lipo cells. They are the worst thing to happen to the hobby IMO.

terry.sc 18-05-2013 06:02 PM

Leaving nimh cells permanently connected will drain them, and going below 0.9v per cell will damage them and quickly shorten their life.

Having everything permanently connected means when it's not running it is still switched on, so with any interference there's nothing to stop it disappearing all by itself, and I wouldn't want to try working on a car that's still turned on.

There's no need to ever remove connectors from the wiring. Decent connectors are as reliable as a soldered joint, and with no more resistance than solid wire.

Dr Fly 18-05-2013 06:49 PM

I agree with all the comments posted so far.

the way chargers charge Nicads and NiMh is by looking for a small voltage drop (deltaV) which tells the charger that the cells are full. If your speedo is connected and on, including other loads via the receiver, this could well confuse the hell out of the charger meaning you wont be able to fully charge or massively overcharge the batteries.

Also even the slightest load for a long time will definitely flatten the batteries to a point where they can be damaged.

Finally, removing any mechanical way of disconnecting your batteries from your car introduces the possibility that you could end up ruining everything in the event of any damage/electrical failures which do happen.

I have to ask, what were your justifications for doing things this way in the first place, your either in need of a lot of help from your local shop/club or you are winding us up!

Great_Thark 19-05-2013 07:43 AM

:thumbdown::thumbdown::o:rolleyes::eh?::wtf:

extrememacko 21-05-2013 07:03 AM

Oh..... Justification, the pictures on the box of associated cars are always wired that way......:bored:

mark christopher 21-05-2013 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrememacko (Post 776060)
Oh..... Justification, the pictures on the box of associated cars are always wired that way......:bored:

Tosh.....:thumbdown:

Daily sport said if you eat glass you will shit diamonds,please feel free to try that one too.

peetbee 21-05-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by extrememacko (Post 776060)
Oh..... Justification, the pictures on the box of associated cars are always wired that way......:bored:

cos it looks better in marketing photos without messy wiring getting in the way.
As others have said repeatedly, you will damage the cells. Not to mention the chance of your car driving off by itself!

MattW 21-05-2013 11:10 AM

It wasn't uncommon at all to "hard solder" cells into cars - however, you wouldn't do it unless you had a switch, and you wouldn't leave them soldered / in the car to charge.

EFRA and BRCA then bought in a rule banning it, as they said there needed to be a means of disconnecting if something blew up.

extrememacko 21-05-2013 03:00 PM

Youve all made the point very clear thanks,
But very irresponsibale of Associated to market their products that way.

mattr 21-05-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by extrememacko (Post 776181)
But very irresponsibale of Associated to market their products that way.

not really, all the instructions for batteries and electrics I've seen show connectors of one description or another......


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