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Gavin9 27-12-2012 09:45 PM

5.5t for indoor?
 
hello all, I raced over 10 years ago but havent touched a buggy since so am pretty much a newbie but cant wait to get back involved... recently bought a losi 22 and with it got a nosram matrix evo esc and a Losi xcelorin 5.5t Motor...I was told at the time that the motor would be fine for indoor racing but as I research and look around the forum I read lots that I should be looking at 7.5t upwards? Im not fully aware of all the differences in motors. I am planning to race at southport in the new year and was just wondering whether i can/should race with a 5.5 or whether i would need a different motor.

thanks in advance

Gavin

buggy#0 27-12-2012 09:56 PM

6.5t, even outdoors, is the absolute limit. 5.5 outdoors would be pretty suicidal, indoors simply uncontrollable. As you are new to brushless/lipos, i would recommend 8.5t or 10.5t.
hope this helps

bigred5765 27-12-2012 09:56 PM

get a 8.5 - 7.5

Gavin9 27-12-2012 10:03 PM

thanks for the responses, what would a 5.5t be used for? is it more for touring cars? out of interest i guess there is no way of turning the motor down? its just best to get a new one?

andys 27-12-2012 10:10 PM

2wd I run a 6.5 outdoors
4wd I run a 5.5 outdoors

Never tried a 5.5 in 2wd - it would be insane!

chuckie stella 27-12-2012 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin9 (Post 726110)
thanks for the responses, what would a 5.5t be used for? is it more for touring cars? out of interest i guess there is no way of turning the motor down? its just best to get a new one?

5.5 is for those who are crazy or can handle it!
I use 7.5 in 2wd and 6.5 in 4wd. Don't think I could handle anything hotter to be honest.
Brushless was newish when I started 4 years ago and I wish someone said to me 13.5 rather than 6.5 in my 2wd as a beginner. You'll just spend longer on your roof and replacing parts with silly motors.

Less is more, slow is fast and all that.

Hope this helps, mate. Welcome back and good luck

knighthawk 27-12-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

I wish someone said to me 13.5 rather than 6.5 in my 2wd as a beginner. You'll just spend longer on your roof and replacing parts with silly motors.
I agree with this totally.
Indoors it's more about driveability not out and out speed.

I use a 6.5 in my 4wd, and a 7.5-8.5 in my 2wd depending on track and conditions

My sons use 10.5 in the 4wd and 13.5 in their 2wd's, with the right gearing the 13.5 is very good and plenty fast enough down the straights and has good jump launch speed

Adam F 27-12-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie stella (Post 726114)
5.5 is for those who are crazy or can handle it!

Mr White for example... :)

Belsten 27-12-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie stella (Post 726114)
5.5 is for those who are crazy or can handle it!
I use 7.5 in 2wd and 6.5 in 4wd.

Thats all I ever run too :)

Chalkie 28-12-2012 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x313 (Post 726127)
Mr White for example... :)

I'm not crazy, just slightly unhinged :woot:

Adam F 28-12-2012 12:34 AM

Ha Ha!!!! knew you would spot this thread!!!!!!! :D

Chalkie 28-12-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie stella (Post 726114)
Less is more, slow is fast and all that.

Mr Owen I can assure you that slow is most definitely not fast :)

Jason A 28-12-2012 01:41 AM

There's no point running a fast motor in a 2wd as all you will find is its like driving on a skating rink in the midfield.

I have recently changed from a 7.5t motor to a 8.5t motor in my 2wd.

The funny thing is I am actually getting a lot better lap times lol.

It's still as fast as the 7.5t easily and the tyres are wearing less as they are not spinning up all time.

And with the correct gearing there is no loss of top speed.

Someone I know told me its better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow lol ;-)

Cheers

Skye 28-12-2012 01:49 AM

Agree with all of the above really. Last winter I ran a 6.5 indoors and had the Esc turned down to 40%!! This year I started off with a 7.5 which was a big improvement and now I am running an 8.5 which is better still. The loss of top end is negligible, but the improved control of the car means my lap times have improved each time I have changed to a 'slower' motor...

tisher 28-12-2012 08:44 AM

you could always keep the motor and turn the epa down on the tranny and just turn it up as you get better :) I run a 5.5t indoors in a dex410 and a 6.5 in my b4 we have do it to keep up

Lee24h 28-12-2012 10:09 AM

Tried a 5.5t ONCE and went back to a 8.5t with barely any boost it is a lrp x12 which are fast motors but still if there wasnt a football goal in the way my car with a 5.5t motor in it would of ended up out the door under full brakes
I have been toying with the idea of putting a boosted 13.5t in my car

Lee24h 28-12-2012 10:14 AM

Just read the first post and losi motors are a bit soft its what my 13.5t is
However running that in blinky will still put you in the 6t catergory still a bit quick it would be fine in 4wd though

TARTMAN 28-12-2012 10:25 AM

agree
 
yep.
I run a 6.5 and 5.5 in my 4wd.

7.5 or 10.5 in the 2wd.

I put a 5.5 in my 2wd for a larf, just span everywhere all the time.

a 7.5 or 8.5 is lowest/fastest for 2wd i would say, and as coming back. get a 10.5t and then you can add timing and turbo etc if your speed control allows as you get faster.

I love my 10.5, in 2wd, its great in the midfield, easy to drive etc, but on the strait and faster sections, with timing and turbo, as fast as the 7.5t on the track.....

in my 4wd, i prefer the mental 5.5t, as the car can handle it..... me, maybe not so much thou lol.........

Gavin9 28-12-2012 01:54 PM

thanks very much for all the replies, really appreciate it...seems sensible and probably what I will do is look at an 8.5 or 10.5....my esc is a nosram matrix evolution, ive no idea what this is capable of regards turning it down?...i am planning on buying a etronix pulse ex3g pro next week...

Lee24h 28-12-2012 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TARTMAN (Post 726211)
yep.
I run a 6.5 and 5.5 in my 4wd.

7.5 or 10.5 in the 2wd.

I put a 5.5 in my 2wd for a larf, just span everywhere all the time.

a 7.5 or 8.5 is lowest/fastest for 2wd i would say, and as coming back. get a 10.5t and then you can add timing and turbo etc if your speed control allows as you get faster.

I love my 10.5, in 2wd, its great in the midfield, easy to drive etc, but on the strait and faster sections, with timing and turbo, as fast as the 7.5t on the track.....

in my 4wd, i prefer the mental 5.5t, as the car can handle it..... me, maybe not so much thou lol.........

Are you running a 5.5t in your k1 and what make?


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