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paulc 26-10-2012 05:22 AM

Mini Pins at Chadderton
 
Hi for the people that were running mini pins at Chadderton what did you think to them ? was they better when they was slightly worn. I was running dboots all day but now got a set of mini pins glued up ready to try

johnboy 26-10-2012 06:38 AM

Pins felt good mate. As you know I had wrong compound d boots so went to pins. Only place was issue was on the green carpet grip rolled a couple of times. What was the d boots like

Andyp 26-10-2012 07:00 AM

Paul I used mini pins all day started off on a new set all round on 4wd and new rears but the same fronts as I used at Worksop the week before, I ended up trimming the outer row of pins off my 2wd fronts as, Johnboy said they were a little keen on the carpet!

I decided to go with pins as I never really used Dboots before so kinda stuck with what I knew would be useable.

What compound Dboots do they use ?

paulc 26-10-2012 03:55 PM

I used A compound terrabytes they were good on the carpet and the hall floor they have worn down quickly but the grip seemed consistant the rears are now pretty much bald so i don't think i'll get another meeting out of them

Think im going to try and find a set of worn mini pins for the front i think new ones will be fine on the hall floor but too much on the carpet

Whats the wear rate like on pins do you think you'd get two meetings out of a set of rears on 2wd ?

braddaz 26-10-2012 05:25 PM

Hi ,

I used mini pins yellow(2wd car) fronts are fine but suprised how worn rears are i defo wont get another meeting out of them , to say these are the tyre choice i found a severe lack of rear grip , btw whats differance between dboots mini pins an schumacher mini pins is it just compound?
how the hell do some people such grip i saw in other 2wd cars :confused:
first time i had been to chadderton or raced for a while to say i struggled is a understatement :lol:.
was good fun though.

Stephen Lawson 27-10-2012 05:09 PM

HI All

Have tried both makes of tyres over the last 2 years.

Schumachers are good from new and get better then they hit a wall around round 3 and from that point onwards i feel they are not quite as good and tail off by finals time.

dBoots are awful for the first 5 to 10 laps dependant on the track layout, but once bedded in they seem to get better and better the more worn they get, have seen them run totally bold by people without loosing grip.

But at the end of the day u have to use what is best for your car / set up but do recomend u try both makes, Dont think you will get 2 meeting out of either makes but you may be able to run round 3 with tyres from round 1 and 2.


Stephen

That is why we as a club opted not to run a control tyres.

tisher 27-10-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braddaz (Post 707786)
Hi ,

I used mini pins yellow(2wd car) fronts are fine but suprised how worn rears are i defo wont get another meeting out of them , to say these are the tyre choice i found a severe lack of rear grip , btw whats differance between dboots mini pins an schumacher mini pins is it just compound?
how the hell do some people such grip i saw in other 2wd cars :confused:
first time i had been to chadderton or raced for a while to say i struggled is a understatement :lol:.
was good fun though.


this was also my meeting run dboots on the 4wd durango after finding the mini pins were rubbish. the dboots were dead by the final:o I run a c4.1 in the 2wds and just could not get grip I run brand new yellow mini pins and had absolutely no grip the car was awful no matter what I did.. I might run my b4.1 next time it was that bad:woot:

Darren Wales 28-10-2012 08:15 AM

spikes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tisher (Post 708025)
this was also my meeting run dboots on the 4wd durango after finding the mini pins were rubbish. the dboots were dead by the final:o I run a c4.1 in the 2wds and just could not get grip I run brand new yellow mini pins and had absolutely no grip the car was awful no matter what I did.. I might run my b4.1 next time it was that bad:woot:


I ran yellow mini spikes on the rear, with mini pins front on my C4.1 taking aside my driving skills aren't that good, I found the grip was very good. I started with mini pins rear on practice, but just slid out the back end. The spikes did wear fairly well too, with grip still good in the final. The tyre choice did raise a few eyebrows with some of the top drivers but quite a few drivers did give it a go at some point in the day. Just another option.;)

tisher 28-10-2012 08:23 AM

to be honest I think it was more my set up on the c4 as I was running silver springs all round because I had no other springs with me:blush:

paulc 28-10-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Lawson (Post 708022)
HI All

Have tried both makes of tyres over the last 2 years.

Schumachers are good from new and get better then they hit a wall around round 3 and from that point onwards i feel they are not quite as good and tail off by finals time.

dBoots are awful for the first 5 to 10 laps dependant on the track layout, but once bedded in they seem to get better and better the more worn they get, have seen them run totally bold by people without loosing grip.

But at the end of the day u have to use what is best for your car / set up but do recomend u try both makes, Dont think you will get 2 meeting out of either makes but you may be able to run round 3 with tyres from round 1 and 2.


Stephen

That is why we as a club opted not to run a control tyres.

Personally i think it should have been a controlled tyre but thats me others may agree or disagree

I'll give minipins a try see what there like. Looking forward to rd 2 :)

johnboy 28-10-2012 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulc (Post 708145)
Personally i think it should have been a controlled tyre but thats me others may agree or disagree

I'll give minipins a try see what there like. Looking forward to rd 2 :)

I agree with you on the control tyre Paul and I know of others that would have liked a control tyre. It works at Worksop so why not for chadderton?

Mike Parker 28-10-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andyp (Post 707572)
Paul I used mini pins all day started off on a new set all round on 4wd and new rears but the same fronts as I used at Worksop the week before, I ended up trimming the outer row of pins off my 2wd fronts as, Johnboy said they were a little keen on the carpet!

I decided to go with pins as I never really used Dboots before so kinda stuck with what I knew would be useable.

What compound Dboots do they use ?

Yeah I have to agree with Andy, I've stuck with the pins as I know them & find them more consistent in general. I've run a new set at the last round and they still have plenty of life for the next round :)

Have used DBoots last year for the 1st round, personally I found that once they were scrubbed in they were good for the first few rounds, when they reached the step of the pin in the last round, they went off very quickly and I really struggled with grip for the final.

braddaz 28-10-2012 12:01 PM

why would a control tyre make any differance at chadderton ? wasnt most people using minipins anyway unless there was a good (an i mean good not a pound off price ! ) cost saving buying control tyres i cannot see the point and which would you choose dboots or schumacher ?
why does it make other meetings better ?
i was thinking of trying some proline super soft tyres unless some one has tried them already

Wupding 29-10-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tisher (Post 708137)
to be honest I think it was more my set up on the c4 as I was running silver springs all round because I had no other springs with me:blush:


Why Didn't you say you nipple i had loads on me!! Arghhhh:p

tony12795 30-10-2012 10:40 PM

Personally I would have like to see controlled tyres, spikes and not pins for me.

Pins will not last a full day especially on 2wd and D-Boot don't work for the first two rounds!!

Everybody has old spikes from summer, why not used them......

Just my 2ps worth.

Tony

johnboy 31-10-2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony12795 (Post 709081)
Personally I would have like to see controlled tyres, spikes and not pins for me.

Pins will not last a full day especially on 2wd and D-Boot don't work for the first two rounds!!

Everybody has old spikes from summer, why not used them......

Just my 2ps worth.

Tony

Agree with this. Might not be the best tyre but same for everyone and at least will last the day.


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