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gixxer 20-10-2012 08:57 PM

DB1 at worm
 
Hello I raced the db1 at worm today and found it really hard to get any grip from the rear end at the start of the day it wasn't bad and as the day went on the grip got less and less as I've said before I'm no setup guru but took advice from others and got it summit like it for the final, but 3 out of the 5 heats went to waste trying to drive a car that just wanted to go round in circles

Adam F 20-10-2012 09:05 PM

What setup did you run? Tyres etc?

gixxer 20-10-2012 09:17 PM

Started off with the "standard setup" with dboot b compound tires on the rear (multibyte) and staggers on the front which was ok for 2 rounds then went to rat shit

Adam F 20-10-2012 09:26 PM

Never run D boots so not sure how they behave... not much use I'm afraid.

gixxer 20-10-2012 09:31 PM

That's about all that would grip the chap who won the A was using them and a lot of others were too

RudeTony 20-10-2012 09:32 PM

Please email me 3 photos of your car as you run it.
one form the rear, one from the front and one from the top
[email protected]

Dudders 20-10-2012 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudeTony (Post 705837)
Please email me 3 photos of your car as you run it.
one form the rear, one from the front and one from the top
[email protected]

Now that's service! :)

gixxer 20-10-2012 09:55 PM

Bloody rite it is you don't get that from Schumacher! Pics have been sent tony :)

gixxer 20-10-2012 11:11 PM

Mr rudetony.......... A true gent!

tomtom 20-10-2012 11:43 PM

Keep us posted on tips for low grip !

coleman758 21-10-2012 12:01 AM

Yep!

I'm at Chadderton tomorrow, So any tips would be great!

highlander 21-10-2012 08:34 AM

yep same as GIXXER hear .. WORM weston super mare was real hard work all day we just could not find rear grip as the day went on ... the track (newly layed astro) gave grip as souch to start with .car pushed a little for the first couple of heats but was drivable.... but as the day went on rear grip dissapeared... the worst bit was just getting the car to go up the straight in a straight line at a good pase . i could deal with the car loose in the corners but was a real hand full.......
end set up was
rear
losi-20wt
losi bb white spring (softest i had)
inner top on tower
inner hole on w/bone
3b pistons
ride hight = shafts were level
removed 2mm washer from inner ball stud

front
losi 30wt oil
k dark yell springs
centre hole on tower
outer hole w/bone
3b pistons
ride hight level but dident take a reading
links as kev lee's setup
shock were small bore

rubber
dboots multibite b comp (unique to this track)
cut low pro stagers yell
std weight kit added to the car

please pick holes in my set up guys any tips to try would be great to try

one thing i would like to have tried is try balistic pinks on the rear....

tomtom 21-10-2012 10:56 AM

I found the same on wet astro, car was very manageable on corners if I was carefull not to arrive to quick into them but on straight I had hard time putting power down. On that kind of track, Ballistic green were awesome to add a bit of rear grip and with them the car was fine.

gixxer 21-10-2012 11:45 AM

I didn't use ballistic greens but highlander did and they were just as bad. For me going into corners was all good coming out was the hard bit!

highlander 21-10-2012 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomtom (Post 705915)
I found the same on wet astro, car was very manageable on corners if I was carefull not to arrive to quick into them but on straight I had hard time putting power down. On that kind of track, Ballistic green were awesome to add a bit of rear grip and with them the car was fine.

can i ask what insert you were using with greens ... thanks Lee

tomtom 21-10-2012 01:22 PM

Classic Answer blue, found the car predictable, still got to take care on corner exit but feels more safe than schum silver.
I like it that way

Paul Field 21-10-2012 04:46 PM

Hi mate give me a call tomorrow night and i will go through your setup.
I'm away tonight though.
Cheers Paul

focusmad 21-10-2012 06:45 PM

Hi will be interested in what help you get as my db1 was the same at Shrccc today had no forward bite in the wet,running mine on standard setup
Chris

mrspeedy 21-10-2012 06:56 PM

From a DEX210 drivers point of view ... sounds like you had the same problems yesterday at WORM as most of us did in 2wd TBH.

The Dboots look to be a tyre that works a little better in the damp here, I never got a pair to try, Rob at South West RC ran out before I got there !! so I struggled on with a new pair of Ballistic greens which would just about let you put the power down ... but I could still spin the wheels half way down the straight :lol:

My best runs were when the car felt "balanced" so you could 4 wheel drift it more than anything else I tried ... :)

InsideLineModels 21-10-2012 08:49 PM

Things to try would be...

Lowering inner links, front and rear.
Add more weight to the spine or under lipo.
Black spring on rear


Also, RB6 rear wishbones are a direct fit, and allow you to go even shorter wheelbase. They also have the drop down built in. I've been trying them on the zx5 and that works well so might be worth trying on the db1.

Hope that helps...


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