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HKS_TRD 14-10-2012 03:32 AM

Turbo Optima Mid SP
 
I have been collecting pieces for my three Optima Mid builds for a while now.
Two of the builds are waiting on custom parts from Fibrelyte so I may as well start with the Turbo Optima Mid SP replica. I am pretty sure I have all the required parts now, everything is new including the bits that aren't in the original packets. The belt covers and gear cover are the genuine Kyosho items, however I will be using a Marwan body, I do have a genuine undertray but its a tight fit in the repro body.
So far all I have done is trim the belt covers and assemble the shocks. Once I build the ball diffs I can get stuck into putting it all together. I'll try to take progress pics of each step

Thanks in advance to Oli4ke for help with sourcing some of the rarer parts for this project

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...1020122834.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...1020122836.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...1020122835.jpg

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j0pp3 14-10-2012 04:45 AM

Damn, that's a lot of sweetness. I'll be following this for sure! :drool:

DanB4 14-10-2012 05:27 AM

Brilliant! I'll be following too :)

oli4ke 14-10-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 703616)
Thanks in advance to Oli4ke for help with sourcing some of the rarer parts for this project

All parts together looks really nice:wub
My pleasure mate;)

HKS_TRD 17-10-2012 02:43 PM

I've haven't had a chance to start assembly as such but I did manage to build the ball diffs. I used the following bits to make them up, this isn't strictly period correct for the Turbo Optima Mid SP as the parts I used make ball diffs equivalent to the later revised units rather than the original diffs, I remember the ones in my new Turbo Optima Mid SE having a different centre screw and no spring or plastic dust cover.
I'm hoping to get the gearboxes assembled and bolted to the chassis on the weekend, which would get me to the state of assembly that the SP was in when one purchased a NIB kit

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...1020122857.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...1020122860.jpg

j0pp3 17-10-2012 05:25 PM

Don't worry about the diffs being revised. This build will be a killer!

I'm so jealous that you got that chassis N.I.P. That is the only part I need to start my build... :bored:

oli4ke 17-10-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0pp3 (Post 704842)
I'm so jealous that you got that chassis N.I.P. That is the only part I need to start my build... :bored:

That OTW5 chassis NIP is as rare as a nice looking grandma :woot::D

HKS_TRD 17-10-2012 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0pp3 (Post 704842)
Don't worry about the diffs being revised. This build will be a killer!

I'm so jealous that you got that chassis N.I.P. That is the only part I need to start my build... :bored:

I got the chassis from Oli4KE and that was the catalyst for this build going from being a modified LWB Mid to the SP replica. I am still building a very modified LWB Mid, that will be the next project along with a friends LWB Mid, the last build will be a SWB Mid with a few tweaks and somewhere along the line I will give my Lazer ZX a makeover now that I have decided what I am doing with it

Quote:

Originally Posted by oli4ke (Post 704854)
That OTW5 chassis NIP is as rare as a nice looking grandma :woot::D

Lol so true, I don't think I have seen another NIP OTW5 though there have been a couple nice secondhand ones on eBay

j0pp3 18-10-2012 08:45 AM

Ouch! Did not realize it was that rare. This build just got even better and I'm looking forward to see the progress :)

lllyf 19-10-2012 01:09 AM

amazing, optima mid is very popular car but hard to get more and more,I still wait my SWB parts car to rebuild mine.

HKS_TRD 19-10-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0pp3 (Post 704842)
Don't worry about the diffs being revised. This build will be a killer!

I'm so jealous that you got that chassis N.I.P. That is the only part I need to start my build... :bored:

Do you have everything else for the build? The other parts that are hard to find are the rear wheels, the fronts you can find on eBay at the moment but they are a brighter yellow than the original SP wheels which are more of a dull yellow, and you can't get new rears anyway. The other thing that is hard to find is the rear tyres. The new kit came with two sets of yellow wheels, one set had W-5033 fronts and OT-66 on the rear, these are both pretty hard to find and rather expensive. The other set had W-5034 fronts and W-5031 rears, the W-5034 like the newer front yellow wheels are easy to find and the rears are really hard to find, I have only seen two pairs on eBay since I started looking for parts for these builds

Quote:

Originally Posted by lllyf (Post 705285)
amazing, optima mid is very popular car but hard to get more and more,I still wait my SWB parts car to rebuild mine.

I have a real soft spot for the Mid because when I was in school the Mid was the car I always wanted and eventually I managed to get one, a brand new Turbo Optima Mid SE, so as part of my collection there will be an SE but more details on that when I start building it

j0pp3 19-10-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKS_TRD (Post 705377)
Do you have everything else for the build? The other parts that are hard to find are the rear wheels, the fronts you can find on eBay at the moment but they are a brighter yellow than the original SP wheels which are more of a dull yellow, and you can't get new rears anyway. The other thing that is hard to find is the rear tyres. The new kit came with two sets of yellow wheels, one set had W-5033 fronts and OT-66 on the rear, these are both pretty hard to find and rather expensive. The other set had W-5034 fronts and W-5031 rears, the W-5034 like the newer front yellow wheels are easy to find and the rears are really hard to find, I have only seen two pairs on eBay since I started looking for parts for these builds

Yes, I think I have the rest of the parts. I got the wheels from a local forum member and the tyres I got from Ebay this summer. Someone sold a complete set like new without robbing me :)

The difference to your build is that I don't have the parts in original bags.

HKS_TRD 22-10-2012 10:43 AM

This is probably a stupid question but its been such a long time and I can't make it out from the instructions, when assembling the ot-88 clutch on the spur gear are the black pads glued to the metal plates or to the spur gear?

Naushad 22-10-2012 10:56 AM

I believe it's the metal plates, but please don't rush in until someone else answers

mr. ed 22-10-2012 05:39 PM

? I didn't know you had to glue those to anything

Naushad 24-10-2012 10:40 AM

Well when I got a few mids I noted that the black pad was glued to the plate...easy enough to get off though

HKS_TRD 24-10-2012 11:03 AM

You can see it on this page of the manual

What would I use to glue the pad to the metal plate? Just super glue or something?

http://www.retromodelisme.com/scan_p...ho-page-6.html

Naushad 24-10-2012 11:25 AM

Hmm...I am not too sure.

Maybe something not too adhesive as if you want to remove later on during maintenance then you can do so relatively easily?

j0pp3 24-10-2012 04:56 PM

I suppose this beauty will become a shelf queen? Then you always have the option to skip gluing parts and just make a note about it. I have skipped the glue on my mid shelfers and also not using Loctite on screws or super glue between wheels/tires.

There may be other opinions about this... :)

Cheers

HKS_TRD 25-10-2012 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0pp3 (Post 707078)
I suppose this beauty will become a shelf queen? Then you always have the option to skip gluing parts and just make a note about it. I have skipped the glue on my mid shelfers and also not using Loctite on screws or super glue between wheels/tires.

There may be other opinions about this... :)

Cheers

This will indeed become a shelf queen. I did already glue the yellow parts for the ball diffs and the idler belt pulley.
I did think about skipping all the glue and its not such a bad idea, I most likely will skop the loktite where it can look a little messy however for the black pads the glue is only mean to be applied lightly so if I can do it with no mess I will just for the sake of it. Also my OCD has now kicked in and I just HAVE to know where the pads should be glued too

I agree 100% about not glueing the wheels, my Lazer ZX had the wheels glued on and while I mananged to save the wheels (they came up mint) the tyres were ruined in places and the tread on them was great, total waste of a pair of OT-66 and W-5033, though they don't look that bad when on rims so I gave them to a very good friend of mine whom I am helping build a LWB Mid which I will do a thread for on here when that gets underway


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