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jimmy 15-05-2008 01:54 PM

New Kyosho Off roader
 
New car from Kyosho?
http://blog.drecom.jp/teamnovi/img/5...1514330000.jpg

Northy 15-05-2008 02:00 PM

Rog is going to do his nut! :woot::woot:

G

Lee 15-05-2008 02:01 PM

Someone get roger a sock quick:woot:

nitrokillah 15-05-2008 02:02 PM

waw that looks nice . should be intresting

jimmy 15-05-2008 02:10 PM

Added it to the news now, along with my jimmyobservations :lol:

RLGfx 15-05-2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 124174)
Someone get roger a sock quick:woot:

Rog won't like it.... look where the cells are.........

DanW 15-05-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLGfx (Post 124350)
Rog won't like it.... look where the cells are.........

....But look how far forward the motor is, definately got more fore weight than a BJ4/B44 or other clone.

Northy 15-05-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanW (Post 124356)
....But look how far forward the motor is, definately got more fore weight than a BJ4/B44 or other clone.

Not really, it's just the motor mount is the other end of the motor.....

G

DanW 15-05-2008 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 124396)
Not really, it's just the motor mount is the other end of the motor.....

G

It is definately a bit further forward, but looking at the centre of mass of the motors it probably only 5 or 10mm different. Your right the front spur makes the motor seem much more forward than it really is.

Nice space between back of motor and cells, maybe rog can move the cells forward!

Also noticed the bodyshell has the same cockpit as an RB5 shell... is it just cut and shut prototype shell or new harmonised design?

dummy 16-05-2008 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanW (Post 124404)
It is definately a bit further forward, but looking at the centre of mass of the motors it probably only 5 or 10mm different. Your right the front spur makes the motor seem much more forward than it really is.

Nice space between back of motor and cells, maybe rog can move the cells forward!

Also noticed the bodyshell has the same cockpit as an RB5 shell... is it just cut and shut prototype shell or new harmonised design?


looks like the body the team ran at the worlds...
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/world.../OOP_9121.html

RogerM 16-05-2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLGfx (Post 124350)
Rog won't like it.... look where the cells are.........

I am actually more depressed to see the shocks infront of the rear wishbones!!

Northy 16-05-2008 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 124516)
I am actually more depressed to see the shocks infront of the rear wishbones!!

Why? If they were behind then even more weight would be even further back....

G

RogerM 16-05-2008 05:14 PM

More to do with the torsional loads through the wishbones, I am still convinced that the suspension moves more freely with the shocks mounted behind the wishbones .... if there was an easy way to achieve that at the front end then I would!!

Northy 16-05-2008 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 124623)
More to do with the torsional loads through the wishbones, I am still convinced that the suspension moves more freely with the shocks mounted behind the wishbones .... if there was an easy way to achieve that at the front end then I would!!

Can you explain why or how Rog? :confused:

G

Lee 16-05-2008 06:34 PM

I`m intrugued to know also, the wishbones wont flex front to rear which is what i assume you mean roger.

The forces are transferred from the wheel to the WB which is pretty much centred depending on the spacing on the hub. Or am i missing the point?

Northy 16-05-2008 06:39 PM

Someone who I trust told me it won't make any difference, and that ideally the shock should be at the same angle as the antisquat :thumbsup:

G

Lee 16-05-2008 07:16 PM

ELVO ???

RogerM 17-05-2008 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 124656)
Someone who I trust told me it won't make any difference, and that ideally the shock should be at the same angle as the antisquat :thumbsup:

G

That is true assuming that the wishbones are torsionally stiff enough to maintain there geometry under load but I've never come across a moulded wishbone that I can twist torsionally ..... the best are probably the Tamiya 501X parts then the RB5 fronts.



The statement is based on experiences of moving shocks around on several cars and may well be nothing more than a placebo effect within my mind but on each occassion the car has seemed to react to sharp ruts and bumps better.


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