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tobbe 14-04-2008 07:22 PM

Predator XRS
 
Hello!

I recently talked to a guy that wants to trade away his Pred XRS! Now I just need to wait for him to reply if he wants to trade it for my home-made crawler project that I didn't finished. It seems like it's going to be a trade:thumbsup:!

But the Pred he trades isn't fully ready to go. There are missing some parts and a diff is slipping. Not so much although. But anyway, I'm going to order the missing and broken parts if there will be a trade. At the same time I will order some parts that usually breaks during a crash for example. But I don't have any idea which parts I should get for the Pred. A-arms I don't think I need because I'll get a whole extra set of A-arms. But what else? Thanks!:)

footey 14-04-2008 07:35 PM

id poss get a spur gear and a front gearbox top or upgrade the gearbox top for the x11 one { if this can be done } and a set of hubs

Tom3012 14-04-2008 07:41 PM

hi there!.... you wont be disappointed if you do get the pred!!!

spares i would buy are:

-2x spur gears (go for the x11 white gear)
-1x set of front and rear hubs
-1x gearbox top
-1x set of derlin steering posts

if you need part numbers let me know and ill fin them out, id say thats about it enough to get you going :thumbsup:

any more questions, feel free to drop me a pm

Tom

AndyM 14-04-2008 07:47 PM

Also, it might be worth buying one of the bulk packs of wheels?

These are great value for money, and will keep you going for a long while.

Hope this helps,
Andy

Tom3012 14-04-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyM (Post 113718)
Also, it might be worth buying one of the bulk packs of wheels?

These are great value for money, and will keep you going for a long while.

Hope this helps,
Andy

very true!... but go for either the orange or black ones, the white ones are fragile, they cost me a qualifier on sunday :cry:

Tom

col300 15-04-2008 07:09 AM

they do a x10 spares pack which includes the above plus more except the spur gear so i'd just get that and a couple of of x11 spurs.

Garry Driffill 15-04-2008 08:54 AM

" RACE SPARES PACK X10

£25.52

Essential Spares Pack To Have Includes: 1 Of Each Wishbone 1 Set Of Wheels 2 Of Each Upright Standard Ball Joints Long Standard Ball Joints "

Here is the spares pack good value with some vital spares :).. maybe this would be worth a go like Col300 says, buy a couple of spure gears ( X11 ) too and maybe a gearbox top too and see how you get on..

Wil you be racing he car, or is it just for bashing ?

Garry

ben 15-04-2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 113723)
very true!... but go for either the orange or black ones, the white ones are fragile, they cost me a qualifier on sunday :cry:

Tom

I saw that happen. It just sort of disintergrated with 3 big cracks across the wheel.

ben

Mrs.TeamXtreme 15-04-2008 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben (Post 113863)
I saw that happen. It just sort of disintergrated with 3 big cracks across the wheel.

ben

I'd just like to point out, that the reason this happened is all Wheel Drive Disc's were actually put on back to front and so instead of supporting the wheel it just caused friction. This was the case for all of the car's who had wheels that cracked.
:)

burgie 15-04-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.TeamXtreme (Post 113877)
I'd just like to point out, that the reason this happened is all Wheel Drive Disc's were actually put on back to front and so instead of supporting the wheel it just caused friction. This was the case for all of the car's who had wheels that cracked.
:)

it also had a LOT to do with how hard he hit the kerb during his warm-up lap!!!! :woot:

apart from that though, the car was looking very good by the end of the day but sounding a little rough!
it appears to be a big improvement over the X10, which is good.

tobbe 15-04-2008 11:48 AM

Thanks a lot guys! I appreciate the help you give me. Let's just hope I get the Pred!:) It really seems to be a nice car, I love it!

I'm not going to race seriously. I would if I had the opportunity but unfortunately here aren't any 1:10 electric buggy races in the Southern part of Finland. Just in the north and of course the Wasa Cross but that's all:(. So the car is mainly going to be used for racing with my friends and at the local club track.

Tom3012 15-04-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs.TeamXtreme (Post 113877)
I'd just like to point out, that the reason this happened is all Wheel Drive Disc's were actually put on back to front and so instead of supporting the wheel it just caused friction. This was the case for all of the car's who had wheels that cracked.
:)


totally true! completely my fault, to keen to get it on the track.. also my incident in the warm up lap as chris mentioned, that didnt help :p

car was pretty much dialled by the end of the day though!!!

Tom

Tom3012 15-04-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben (Post 113863)
I saw that happen. It just sort of disintergrated with 3 big cracks across the wheel.

ben

funny thing was, i noticed that on the second lap, there was a small hole in the wheel, and i drove a bit slower to try and make the wheel last the race, but in driving slower, i was going quicker overall, if that makes sense?

Tom

New Losi 15-04-2008 12:19 PM

Not sure how you can put the drive disc's on the wrong way round, must have done the wheels up really tight to actually get any drive. Never had a problem with the x10 wheels:thumbsup: think they are plenty strong enough. Although I guess it does come down to what you hit with them.

Garry Driffill 15-04-2008 12:23 PM

orange X11 wheels are the coolest

Tom3012 15-04-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Losi (Post 113921)
Not sure how you can put the drive disc's on the wrong way round, must have done the wheels up really tight to actually get any drive. Never had a problem with the x10 wheels:thumbsup: think they are plenty strong enough. Although I guess it does come down to what you hit with them.

not any tighter than normal.... the other side of the disc is just flat, so it doesnt make a difference... only thing is you dont get the support from the raised area on the disc into the wheel, which in turn makes it weaker...

Lee 15-04-2008 12:49 PM

Why do they continue to make a different fitment of wheels, pretty much every other car used the std losi/ae hex and pins.

:confused:

Garry Driffill 15-04-2008 01:08 PM

To me the X10 / X11 wheel fitment looks far stronger than a losi or AE fitment as ive seen Losi wheels especially the fronts strip alot. Ive never heard of a predator wheel strip on the later cars with this fitment.. but could be wrong.

Alfonzo 15-04-2008 01:25 PM

Because the offsets are different IIRC, so to make use of Losi style wheels would entail a complete suspension re-design, amongst other reasons.

Garry Driffill 15-04-2008 01:27 PM

I tried my X11 rear wheels on my X-6 and the off-set is alot, so if losi wheels was used it would be an opasite effect making the wheel base mega wide ?

Alfonzo 15-04-2008 01:35 PM

Yes, that sounds right. No good at all.

tobbe 15-04-2008 03:22 PM

Hate to say this but unfortunately somebody else offered him a lot higher price on the Pred. Too much that I think it's worth to buy:(. Damn! I was so close to get a Predator! Well, good luck next time. Thanks anyway for the advice! Some day in the future I'll get a Predator!

Garry Driffill 15-04-2008 03:25 PM

ahhh gutted mate :cry:... keep an eye on ebay if youre looking for one cheap, or even post a wanted ad on here if you still want one ;)

Garry

RCbob 15-04-2008 03:37 PM

Sounds like a lucky escape to me :thumbsup:

Mrs.TeamXtreme 15-04-2008 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCbob (Post 114064)
Sounds like a lucky escape to me :thumbsup:

:confused:

mattym0310 15-04-2008 05:29 PM

do you wna explain/expand on that rcbob?

franki 15-04-2008 06:03 PM

dont for get everything in the world is the preds falt and its the route of all evil LOL he he

MattW 15-04-2008 06:26 PM

For anyone really interested in the wheels - i did look seriously into converting my X10 to run Losi wheels. The fronts are possible, would need some adaptors making up, but is possible with the offset considderations. Rears - no chance!! Car would be far too wide - which is a shame.

tobbe 15-04-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garry Driffill (Post 114047)
ahhh gutted mate :cry:... keep an eye on ebay if youre looking for one cheap, or even post a wanted ad on here if you still want one ;)

Garry

Yeah, I've searched on Ebay too but haven't find anything. But anyway my LHS sometimes sell some used Preds for a really nice price. During the year I've seen about 2-3 Preds for sale! Unfortunately I didn't have so much money so I could afford to buy one. Yet...:rolleyes:

Cooper 15-04-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobbe (Post 114044)
Hate to say this but unfortunately somebody else offered him a lot higher price on the Pred. Too much that I think it's worth to buy:(. Damn! I was so close to get a Predator! Well, good luck next time. Thanks anyway for the advice! Some day in the future I'll get a Predator!



I have one...

Tom3012 15-04-2008 09:36 PM

just out of curiosity... whats your ruff budget?

jeff jenkins 16-04-2008 07:56 AM

that is a real bummer man.. dont worry, im sure there are a ton out there somewhere but also just think about saving a little more and buying a fresh new kit that no body has tampered with yet.. i have gotten cars in trades or sales that i end up having to put more money into to get rid of all the slop and play that the parts have developed from use and abuse. its worth it to save the extra and buy a new kit. xrs or x11 they are both really great kits and the xrs is fully upgradable to an x10 or x11 when your budget allows. :thumbsup:

-jeff jenkins

Cooper 16-04-2008 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 113717)
spares i would buy are:

-1x set of derlin steering posts

any more questions, feel free to drop me a pm

Tom


TomTom !

an XRS doens't have delrin steering thingies, it uses the old steering system like on P8 and previous.

RCbob 16-04-2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 114189)
do you wna explain/expand on that rcbob?


OK,

I dont think anyone can dispute the fact that there are better cars on the market than the XRS.

Even the B44 @ £150 is better in every way.


I stand by what i say, i think the bloke can do better than a pred.

If they were that good wouldn`t we see top guys using them :confused:

Tom3012 16-04-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper (Post 114485)
TomTom !

an XRS doens't have delrin steering thingies, it uses the old steering system like on P8 and previous.


i didnt know that cooper... thought it was the same as the x10... thanks for clearing that up :)


and rcbob... this discussion has been had many times.. the main reason why "all" the "top" drivers dont run one is because they are all sponsored by the likes of associated/ hotbodies etc... nothing to do with the actual car.... ;)

just a question out of curiosity... have you driven a pred before?

Tom

Wraggy 16-04-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 114577)
nothing to do with the actual car.... ;)

think you will find it might be ...:thumbsup:

Lee 16-04-2008 12:53 PM

Tom,

People can move teams at the end of the season though, you had yardy who is one of the top drivers in the country, he moved on, you had northy, he moved on, Why???

I dont think losi are all that interested in 1/10th Off road, i dont even think bloomers in doing the nats this year, im sure if he approached Xtreme they would snap him up, but the fact is the drivers dont. And the X11 isn`t a new car yardy ran variations of it early last year and Northy had one for southport National so people could see its potential, the truth is they believe other cars have more.

Not having a go mate but i do think some of the kids on this section of the forum have there heads buried in the sand:)

rcracer 16-04-2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 114581)

Not having a go mate but i do think some of the kids on this section of the forum have there heads buried in the sand:)

Not really fair calling them kids Lee :o everyone has differant opinions on all the differant buggys out there my self included which is fair but the guys should be left to do there own thing i reckon.

Lee 16-04-2008 01:21 PM

some are only 15/16 im sure thats still pre-adult??


They can do there own thing and nobody is stopping them, to be honest nobody has even taken the pee out the car for a while its just friendly banter, i got the pee taken out of the aero for its springs. But i laughed and came back with a response about there car.

Its just fun:thumbsup:

Garry Driffill 16-04-2008 01:23 PM

Im only 5 years behind you Lee :D


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