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Pownabown 23-04-2012 08:20 AM

2wd Regional Ledbury
 
Right folks Round 2 of the regional series is this coming sunday.

We will be running an astro track layout for this event and hoping to create something that everyone will enjoy.

Best tyre options is ballistic greens in the wet or yellow mini spike for dry weather, our astro is fairly high grip so am sure you will all enjoy it.

Anyone is welcome to camp the night before, just drop me a PM if you would like to camp.

Gates open from 7am.

Booking in at 8am

There is a water tap on the entrance to the farm by the main building if anyone needs to use this.

Any questions feel free to ask.

The track is also sign posted so you shouldnt have a problem finding us.

Any more details visit www.ledburymodelcarclub.moonfruit.com

Pownabown 26-04-2012 07:36 AM

Right folks thanks to the help of Ledbury members and Roger and co we now have the layout complete for sundays meeting.

There is only a couple of puddles in the bomb hole so we have designed around this so even if we have rain all week and weekend the track is good to race on.

For lap times guys I think you will be looking at a 30second lap around abouts.

looking forward to sunday now

tdi250 26-04-2012 08:44 AM

Hello,

Excuse my ignorance if this is a daft question but will there be anybody there on Sunday selling tyres etc as I have had time to sort out tyres for the meeting?

Wes

MatJohnson 26-04-2012 08:54 AM

Dan Holmes of Pitside fame is booked in so there should be tyres in his shop

tdi250 26-04-2012 08:58 AM

Thanks

Wes

RogerM 26-04-2012 11:38 AM

Track is really good, great balance of fast and slower sections with lots of technical bits thrown in. Air time is sensible and most of the features have a risk-&-reward bias. I am really looking forward to it :)

Track is at least 2.5m all round as per the rules & Nathan & helpers went to great lengths to make sure everything else was as good as it can be (marshal points, line of sight from the rostrum, being able to see / judge landing points especially, track marking lashings etc etc.).

I know some people have concerns about access to the track, especially in wet conditions. It was howling down when I got there last night & again when I left and I had no trouble getting on or off site with my car, neither did any of the others. Care will be required on the drive to the track if you run a VERY low car as the driveway has potholed a bit but I can't see it being a problem for any of the vehicles I normally see parked up at meetings.

The track surface at Ledbury is hardly effected by the rain and as Nathan has already said the only feature that occassionally pools is excluded from this layout so there is no need to have any fear that weather may stop play.

Last point ... be warned that the scrutineer is VERY strict so make sure your all legal before you go ;)

tdi250 26-04-2012 12:18 PM

Talking about being legal.....

Does anyone know if I will struggle to get my mad rat in the box? As i've read others having issues at times.

Wes

RogerM 26-04-2012 05:13 PM

Best to ask the question in the Ansmann section. I believe (not sure) that the front stub axles need to be ground down a touch. We'll help you if needs be, best to check as soon as the kit is set up and you wouldn't be stopped from practicing (if I understand the rules) so there is plenty of time to get it sorted.

Alex Springer will be there on the day (Ansmann team leader)

Smartalec 26-04-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdi250 (Post 648357)
Talking about being legal.....

Does anyone know if I will struggle to get my mad rat in the box? As i've read others having issues at times.

Wes

Hi mate, come and find me on Sunday morning and we'll have a look and get it legal for you no problems :thumbsup:

I'll be in the Ansmann gazebo, should be there before 7.30 :)

tdi250 26-04-2012 05:41 PM

Wow, thanks guys thats wicked!

i'll come track you down!

Wes

neiloliver 27-04-2012 10:02 AM

I think we are going to get VERY wet on Sunday. Nathan - is there a way of letting people know if you have to cancel? Do you expect we will be able to get on and off the field given the amount of rain we are having?

Neil

adon30 27-04-2012 12:24 PM

The forcast for Sunday is twice the amount of rain we've had this morning and that's just overnight before we get there and it will continue all day. It is also going to be quite windy.
If someone can check what conditions are like now and assess it because if it is not useable now there is no chance on Sunday.
As much as I want to race at Ledbury I don't want to have to do the trip only to find out it has been cancelled on the morning.

dale 27-04-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adon30 (Post 648706)
The forcast for Sunday is twice the amount of rain we've had this morning and that's just overnight before we get there and it will continue all day. It is also going to be quite windy.
If someone can check what conditions are like now and assess it because if it is not useable now there is no chance on Sunday.
As much as I want to race at Ledbury I don't want to have to do the trip only to find out it has been cancelled on the morning.

+1.

There's a club meeting at Coventry on Sunday so if we know in advance that Ledbury is unusable we can make other plans.

RogerM 27-04-2012 01:06 PM

The track drains very well, the only feature that might have been an issue has been avoided in the layout.

The car parking area "might" get a little muddy BUT should NOT be a problem so long as people drive sensibly (no big wheel-spins else you can dig yourself out ;) ).

I personally see that there is no reason to cancel this meeting BUT if it does need to be I am sure Nathan will let us know.
Might take a spin out there tomorrow evening and have a look if Nathan can't do this.

Pownabown 27-04-2012 01:37 PM

Weve not had any rain today and so far the track and field is bone dry.

I cant see as we would need to cancel.
The track will hold up no problem and in Ledbury area we dont seem to get much rain compared with other areas so i think everything is good to go.

Also Just checked weather forecast and no rain due today or tomorrow here but slight showers in the afternoon on sunday so I wouldnt worry

Dan Holmes 27-04-2012 04:16 PM

Just a not all.. Pitside will be there on Sunday in all its GLORY!!! Well no Rat van at themoment as its off the road. so look out for A WHITE VIVARO.. Will be pitting in Yardys tent if anyone wants tyres I have flipping tons nd tons and tons..

neiloliver 27-04-2012 04:35 PM

I am sure it will be lovely :)

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/...ipcode=ledbury

tdi250 27-04-2012 04:59 PM

Lol!!

Sunday looks gorgeous!

I'm getting me wellies out!!

MatJohnson 27-04-2012 09:23 PM

Enjoy folks, looks moist :-)

tdi250 27-04-2012 11:04 PM

This will be my first regional for 17 years so i'm gunna bloody enjoy it come rain or shine!! (Probably rain!)

Wes

Slinga 28-04-2012 12:14 PM

Just checked the forecast on the met office website and it says 80% chance of rain all day Sunday with strong winds of upto 45-50mph

Ok you are all saying the track drains well and the feature that is a prob in the rain has been avoided...
but standing on the rostrum racing in strong wind and rain isn't much fun

Also for those of us in the east of the mid-west region an hour to hour and half drive away won't be much fun getting there in the driving rain

Surely these conditions call for the meeting to be postponed to the reserve date of the 12th of August
after all isn't this what the reserve date is for?

Slinga

Wacker 2 28-04-2012 12:24 PM

Totally agree Slinga...

I raced last years regional at Ledbury and it was wet then... wasn't so bad tho as the rain was only very fine misty on/off rain and the track grip stayed pretty good.

Even then, they had a drivers briefing between qualifying and finals to discuss whether they were to run the finals or not due to the weather.

Well the weather tomorrow is looking to be far far worse than it was last year so surely the correct decision is to cancel the meeting for tomorrow and reschedule for the reserve date.

At least that way everybody will have an enjoyable days racing when the weather is a lot better in August - it makes sense!!!

Pownabown 28-04-2012 12:50 PM

I can't see the need for cancelling a meeting when we haven't had any rain for the last three days. We were predicted heavy rain all week here but we haven't had any thus far.

Unless Im told otherwise all is going ahead

Smartalec 28-04-2012 01:07 PM

You can't cancel a meeting because the weather forecast is wet!!!!! If you did that in this country we'd never race. :confused:

The organisers have made a decision, they say the track and surrounding area will hold up so I suggest those that don't want to get out of bed in the morning or wish to go somewhere else do just that and leave the others that want to take a risk on the great British weather to make their way to sunny Ledbury and see how it goes, no one is forcing anyone to race.

And I have a two hour journey by the way :)

Slinga 28-04-2012 01:27 PM

I don't mind racing in the "wet" or drizzle... just not wind and rain like is forecast

Wonder what the reserve date is for?:confused:

Good luck to all that risk it

The Pookster 28-04-2012 01:35 PM

I'm likely not to bother. Driving rain, 4 degC with 45 mph gusts. I don't mind a bit of rain, or a bit of cold, or a bit of wind. But not all at the same time.

Smartalec 28-04-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slinga (Post 649106)
I don't mind racing in the "wet" or drizzle... just not wind and rain like is forecast

Wonder what the reserve date is for?:confused:

Good luck to all that risk it

The reserve date is for meetings that are cancelled, a meeting can't be cancelled because of something that 'might' happen. If the weather turns out to be bad and it's cancelled then the reserve date will be used :thumbsup:

Local weather forecast here says wet and windy all day, it's now 2.40 and there's been barely enough rain to get the grass wet so far and no wind. They get it wrong all the time so hopefully tomorrow is no exception. If they are right and it's bad then I'll see you all on the reserve date :)

OldTimer 28-04-2012 01:48 PM

Well i have cancelled, 1 1/2-2 hour drive, 1 to 2 inch's of rain and gale force winds is not my idea of fun.

If you want to see whats heading are way have a look at the link below and what is over france is coming our way.

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/europe.html

Btw Alec the met office has issued a amber weather warning for the west midlands, they don't do that for a bit of rain ;)

To the guys racing tomorrow have a fun time and be safe.

Smartalec 28-04-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 649114)
Well i have cancelled, 1 1/2-2 hour drive, 1 to 2 inch's of rain and gale force winds is not my idea of fun.

If you want to see whats heading are way have a look at the link below and what is over france is coming our way.

http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/europe.html

Btw Alec the met office has issued a amber weather warning for the west midlands, they don't do that for a bit of rain ;)

To the guys racing tomorrow have a fun time and be safe.

As I said, you can't cancel a meeting BEFORE it happens or we would never leave the house. The post above from Nathan says the local weather has been ok and that tomorrow's is ok too, I'll take a gamble and make the trip unless the organisers say otherwise before I leave in the morning. I'm guessing that if there is a problem then a post on here EARLY in the morning would prevent anyone from making an unnecessary trip :thumbsup:

OldTimer 28-04-2012 02:09 PM

No problem alec everyone has the choice to go or not, my loss if its bright and sunny and you have a great days racing. But just in case wrap up warm as it will feel like 2deg C with the wind chill and bring your wellingtons. I am trust the met office on this one for a change.

Smartalec 28-04-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 649124)
No problem alec everyone has the choice to go or not, my loss if its bright and sunny and you have a great days racing. But just in case wrap up warm as it will feel like 2deg C with the wind chill and bring your wellingtons. I am trust the met office on this one for a change.

Fishing clothing all ready and waiting ......... And waders :lol:

mdb_75 28-04-2012 03:20 PM

I'm not too woried about racing in the rain, but I am concerned about getting back out of the field when it's time to leave. 60+ cars are going to make a mess nomatter how carefully they're driven in.....

Wacker 2 28-04-2012 03:44 PM

I wont be attending... the met office forecasts have been spot on all week where I am in Leicester so I'm trusting them on tomorrow too.

I too share the concerns regarding the cars entering and leaving the grounds... last year was tricky enough and the weather was nowhere near as bad as predicted tomorrow.

Regarding the cancellation of a meeting... you cannot make that decision in the morning as there are a lot of people like me that would need to be leaving at around 5.30am in the morning - therefore in situations like this the decision should be officially made the night before!. I think its unfair of the organisers to expect many people to drive 2 hours to get there just to be told when we get there that the meetings off, and then having to drive 2 hours back home again!

andoiwebb 28-04-2012 03:57 PM

If anyone is planning to turn up and vote to cancel after 2 rounds, please don't bother coming, I want to get a full day of racing in.

Yardeeee 28-04-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wacker 2 (Post 649162)
I wont be attending... the met office forecasts have been spot on all week where I am in Leicester so I'm trusting them on tomorrow too.

I too share the concerns regarding the cars entering and leaving the grounds... last year was tricky enough and the weather was nowhere near as bad as predicted tomorrow.

Regarding the cancellation of a meeting... you cannot make that decision in the morning as there are a lot of people like me that would need to be leaving at around 5.30am in the morning - therefore in situations like this the decision should be officially made the night before!. I think its unfair of the organisers to expect many people to drive 2 hours to get there just to be told when we get there that the meetings off, and then having to drive 2 hours back home again!

Attendance is not mandatory - but if you're not coming, at least have the decency to cancel so we're not hassled in the morning.

It is fine saying "you should cancel the night before..." it isn't that easy. I have 78 people still entered for tomorrow, the fact they are entered shows me they have a willingness to compete. I am in talks with the guys who run the club, they are experienced people and know their track and surrounding area better than any of us. I have to trust their thoughts.

At the moment, they are not giving me any reason to believe cancellation is necessary, a forecast is a forecast, it is not gospel. If we do feel that safety becomes an issue, we will make the necessary call, until then, make your own choice and don't criticise anyone else trying to do the right thing for the good of the series and its competitors.

dale 28-04-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andoiwebb (Post 649166)
If anyone is planning to turn up and vote to cancel after 2 rounds, please don't bother coming, I want to get a full day of racing in.

Damn right. It's going to be cold, wet and windy tomorrow. Anyone who turns up and wants to cancel because it's cold, wet and windy should be thrown onto the field and used to soak up the water. The rest of us can get on with some racing :thumbsup:

keithm1 28-04-2012 05:05 PM

regionals
 
I agree,i dont want to drive for 2 hours and race for 10 mins for it to be called off,i would rather know now or later tonight.After the drive we face i would want a full days racing at least.

HarlowS 28-04-2012 05:06 PM

If anyone has any spare Clodbusters lying around can they bring them just incase we need to be towed out the field :thumbsup:

andoiwebb 28-04-2012 06:18 PM

Harlow has already admitted to me that he wants to do 2 rounds and vote to go home, he's a cissy!

HarlowS 28-04-2012 06:35 PM

Webb has already admitted to me that he doesn't want people to go so he can make the B.


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