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Frecklychimp 17-04-2012 08:27 AM

oOple National 1/10th series?
 
As mentioned by Jimmy in his awesome Stotfold National report...

how many non-BRCA National entrants would be keen for a National series for us lower ranked drivers... maybe used as a stepping stone and back up to the existing Nationals?

personally i'd love to do BRCA Nationals but can admit that i'll never be talented enough to fluke F1 status... so atm entry to the existing Nationals is nigh on impossible with the Stats quoted in Stotfold report!

So a second series for say F3,F4,F5's?

I would say run on same dates obviously at different venues?

discuss.....:thumbsup:

daz 17-04-2012 08:32 AM

Agree 100% mate, probably have to drop the end of year F3,f4,f5 finals as there wouldnt be much point in them.

john333 17-04-2012 09:11 AM

count me in

Gsxrturtle 17-04-2012 09:13 AM

i think this needs a poll started, i for one would definitely want to race this series.

luniemiester 17-04-2012 09:13 AM

I'm up for something like this!

MatJohnson 17-04-2012 09:24 AM

There are only so many weekends in a year though, to arrange the BRCA national series, your regional series and an oople series would mean every weekend is taken up.

The regional series is meant to be the feeder to the national one and with a series open to lesser drivers, there are still going to be disapointments. If most F3's entered the oople one leaving little space for us F4 and F5's so we would just be shifting the problem.

Also, we go racing for the social side, I wonder how many of us have mates who are just at the same license grade?

budfish 17-04-2012 09:31 AM

Great idea id take part

coleman758 17-04-2012 09:32 AM

It will be like the Invernational all year round!!

DCM 17-04-2012 10:25 AM

I see this as where a gap was left from the now defunct RRCi series.....

Smartalec 17-04-2012 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 645015)
I see this as where a gap was left from the now defunct RRCi series.....

Correct :thumbsup:

luniemiester 17-04-2012 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatJohnson (Post 644994)
There are only so many weekends in a year though, to arrange the BRCA national series, your regional series and an oople series would mean every weekend is taken up.

The regional series is meant to be the feeder to the national one and with a series open to lesser drivers, there are still going to be disapointments. If most F3's entered the oople one leaving little space for us F4 and F5's so we would just be shifting the problem.

Also, we go racing for the social side, I wonder how many of us have mates who are just at the same license grade?

But if the oOple series was on the same day as nationals then that still leaves space for regionals and/or clubbies with the added bonus of knowing that no national drivers will be entered (unlike regionals where they can still race)

mattybucks 17-04-2012 10:37 AM

We would be more than willing to run such an event at our new grass track.:thumbsup:

I actually thought that due to the popularity of 1/10 off road we need another series for the people who can not get into Nationals.

jimmy 17-04-2012 10:43 AM

I think running an event on the same day - not to compete but to give space for all those who can't attend. The BRCA officials say the nationals are for the best drivers - and more people are going to be doing regionals this year in hope of getting a place (Elliott Boots, for example) so it's going to get ever more crowded.
I struggled to get an entry myself last year - there was no chance at all this year.

adon30 17-04-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 645015)
I see this as where a gap was left from the now defunct RRCi series.....

I remember doing some of the RRCi series many years ago.

That series used to be open to all. But if run the same weekend as a national then the majority of top 1/10th buggy drivers would not be in attendance. But would still be open for entries from good touring/ 1/8th/ 1/12th etc drivers who don't happen to have an F1/F2 buggy license this year. However that is not a bad thing.

Dazzieboy 17-04-2012 11:37 AM

How about incorporating a vintage national series in too as a sort of side show? Just a thought

RogerM 17-04-2012 12:07 PM

I've often thought that something to fill the void the RRCi series left would be very popular .... the killer is who could organise / run such a thing? All the usual suspects are tied up with the multitude of other things they do already!

pugboy 17-04-2012 12:24 PM

Great idea, the f3,4,5 mortals Nationals :thumbsup:

s22jgs 17-04-2012 01:13 PM

i think some people might need explaining what the F-rating is exactly.

Im not totally sure how it works myself.

Chequered Flag Racing 17-04-2012 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s22jgs (Post 645100)
i think some people might need explaining what the F-rating is exactly.

Im not totally sure how it works myself.


Read on

Quote:

21. LICENCE GRADES
The BRCA 1/10th Off Road Section will award driver licence grades as detailed below.
N.B. Where any percentage calculation results in a fraction, then the result will be rounded-up to the next whole number.

21.1 Demotion by a maximum of one grade is automatic if the driver has failed to re-qualify for the same or higher licence grade in the current year. Drivers that have achieved a ‘top fifteen’ place in the Off-Road National Championship Series since 1994 will not be demoted lower than F3.

21.2 Grades gained from the National Championships will take priority over grades from the Regional Championships.

21.3 Licence grades are calculated using the championship positions at the end of the National and Regional Series each year. All demotions and promotions will be effective from the 1st January of the following year and are maintained throughout that year. (e.g. a driver qualifying for an F2 licence from results in 2005 will be awarded that grade on 1st January 2006 and will remain an F2 for the whole of 2006).

21.4.1 From the NATIONAL SERIES:-
F1 and F2 licence grades will be allocated on a percentage basis as follows:- the number of drivers that score points for the minimum number of events for the National Series (ie. 4 from 6 events) will be used as the base figure.

FORMULA 1 – The top 33% of the base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F1 drivers, (2WD or 4WD separately).

FORMULA 2 – The next 17% of the base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F2 drivers, (2WD or 4WD separately). The licence grade for these drivers will be known as F2N, but for seeding purposes is considered equal to
Regional F2 Grades.

21.4.2 From the REGIONAL SERIES:-
All competitors that enter an event(s) that count towards a Regional Championship, will be awarded a licence grade based on their overall position for that Championship (2WD or 4WD separately).
Regional formulae will be allocated on a percentage basis as follows:- the number of drivers that score points for the minimum number of events for a Region’s particular Series (ie. 3 from 5 events) will be used as the base figure. Any drivers included in this base figure, that have gained their licence from the National Series of the current year (F1, F2 and demoted F1) will be subtracted from the base figure to give an adjusted base figure on which the calculations will be based. It follows that Regional licence grades can only be established when the results of the National Championship are finalised.

FORMULA 2 - The top 20% of the adjusted base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F2 drivers. (2WD and 4WD)

FORMULA 3 - The next 30% of the adjusted base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F3 drivers. (2WD and 4WD)

FORMULA 4 - The next 30% of the adjusted base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F4 drivers. (2WD and 4WD)

FORMULA 5 - The final 20% of the adjusted base figure is used against the final series’ results to determine the F5 drivers (2WD and 4WD).

21.4.3 Within BRCA CLUBS:-
FORMULA 5- This licence grade may be awarded to any competent driver at the discretion of the club officials.

JohnM 17-04-2012 01:48 PM

I think another series would be a good idea, but to throw another idea out there, back in the late 90's early 2000's, there was talk about "Northern" and "Southern" National series, then the top however many chaps from each meet up US style to see who is the full National Champ.

The thing about that idea that I like, is would possibly cut down on the travel, depending on how the country is split.

David Church 17-04-2012 01:51 PM

It's great to see so much interest in another series apart from the National series!!! Watch this space people..............:thumbsup:

tyreman 17-04-2012 01:56 PM

F rating licence grades are outlined in your BRCA handbook.

Adam F 17-04-2012 02:03 PM

:thumbsup: Sounds good to me.. :thumbsup:

mark christopher 17-04-2012 02:12 PM

sounds good to me too, somthing i would play at


:thumbsup:

neil_p 17-04-2012 02:20 PM

I'd be interested.

Nationals are for the fastest drivers (as it should be), but with 1/10 off road being so popular currently it would be good for the rest to have something similar.

Been done this way in Downhill biking now for a fair few years and it seems to work for every one.

s22jgs 17-04-2012 06:10 PM

I guess I better complete this seasons regionals to get an F grade then lol

trekkerkk 17-04-2012 06:21 PM

sounds like a really very good idea:thumbsup:


trekkker

knighthawk 17-04-2012 06:29 PM

I'm doing the Regionals this year to get my F Grade ( I expect an 5, lol )

I'm up for a same day series as the Nationals for us mortals

Robocop 17-04-2012 06:35 PM

Same day sounds good at least then clubs would know when to have there clubs race day,so clubs dont suffer.

wrighty 17-04-2012 06:40 PM

I think that the f ratings should be a standadised platforrm for all classes ibve not made the nationals in 1/8th this year so have been doing 1/10th im currently a f5 but realisticly im a f3/f4 . A feeder series would be a great idea.

budgio 17-04-2012 06:56 PM

Having only ever been on the reserve lists for any Nationals id love to see an f345 National series happen.
Bring it on ...Please ;)

mark christopher 17-04-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knighthawk (Post 645244)
I'm doing the Regionals this year to get my F Grade ( I expect an 5, lol )

I'm up for a same day series as the Nationals for us mortals

your an F5 without entering! lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 645251)
I think that the f ratings should be a standadised platforrm for all classes ibve not made the nationals in 1/8th this year so have been doing 1/10th im currently a f5 but realisticly im a f3/f4 . A feeder series would be a great idea.

can not compare each class, so its hard to move accross from one to the other, but if your an F3/4 in 8th, why are you not in nationals?

russmini 17-04-2012 07:07 PM

Yep, cracking idea.

So, who's organising it and which tracks are we going to?


:thumbsup:

wrighty 17-04-2012 07:08 PM

There is no f ratings in 1/8th its easy to get in to 1/8th nats this year all you had to do was enter within the first 48hours of entry open i was to late and was going to be 23rd reserve

mark christopher 17-04-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 645275)
There is no f ratings in 1/8th its easy to get in to 1/8th nats this year all you had to do was enter within the first 48hours of entry open i was to late and was going to be 23rd reserve

so with all due respect, how do you know your an F3/4?

DCM 17-04-2012 07:35 PM

I wouldn't like to see a BRCA series, but an independent one, it worked in the past and could work now I think. As long as it isn't silly rules like 10.5 motor, only thing I would like is no F1 or previous F1's/

mark christopher 17-04-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 645288)
I wouldn't like to see a BRCA series, but an independent one, it worked in the past and could work now I think. As long as it isn't silly rules like 10.5 motor, only thing I would like is no F1 or previous F1's/

if its run on same day as nationals you will get few F1's id have thought, to me keep current rules, poss relax motor and lipo list and defo run as the RRCI was, seperate to brca (for no other reason you can do rules to suit such as 6 min qual and finals etc

wrighty 17-04-2012 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 645285)
so with all due respect, how do you know your an F3/4?

1 a final at regional level and a b this year ....i used to be a f3 about 6 years ago its a guess based on who im racing with at club and regional level mainly compeating with f2s ans f3s

mark christopher 17-04-2012 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 645299)
1 a final at regional level and a b this year ....i used to be a f3 about 6 years ago its a guess based on who im racing with at club and regional level mainly compeating with f2s ans f3s

many moons ago i used to be a F2, thats a long way off now lol
if your doing regionals you will get your grade anyhow. :thumbsup:

telboy 17-04-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 645275)
There is no f ratings in 1/8th its easy to get in to 1/8th nats this year all you had to do was enter within the first 48hours of entry open i was to late and was going to be 23rd reserve

I disagree that the 1/8th nationals were easy to get into!!:eh?:
Despite there being no F rating, if you hadn't got your entry in within the first 24hr you were struggling to get an entry!
I sent my entry off when I got paid at the end of the month (not everyone has the funds to enter them within 24hrs) and I was 9th reserve, mainly because 48 entries are given to racers who competed in all last years meetings.

On this topic, if you have not 'completed' a full regional series for 6 years, then you will probably be F5.

I think the National F345's on the same day as the National F1/2's would be a great idea. With more drivers getting a decent finish in Nats and attaining their F1/2 then it will get harder to get into the propper nats. Last year I just scraped in and I was an F3, and not doing any nats or regionals this year, I will be an F4 next year, making it harder to get in again. So a national F345 series would be excellent.
Regarding running the series, it would just have to be the hosting club that runs the meeting and then give results to the BRCA to sort out the series.

Great idea.
LETS GET IT ON!!!!!:thumbsup:


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