Schumacher SupaStox GT12
 

See here

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh.../SupaStox.html

I think I shall be ordering one of them!!!

Is it availble yet?

RedRC say end of April, can't see that on Schumacher site though :confused:

I been badgering them for months over it and been told April, got to find out if they are going to do a diff for it though.

Rep told us the mardave diff fits

you were too slow glen :D http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98352

I was driving a Mardave :woot: :lol:

saw your post just after I posted here, think there was less than 5 mins between posts

says on the web site is this via shims under the front arms & rear pod?

I think the Mardave may well be dead as of about now ?

Not really, Mardave have a very strong following, I would think this would bring new life into the class.,

Personally, I can't see any right minded person buying a Mardave over a Schumacher. I'm sure the Schumacher will be the better car, it looks better without even turning a wheel.

I can see a glut of Mardaves going onto Ebay (maybe even mine!) I guess it will be down to the BRCA at the end of the day ??

I wounder what the Mardave responce will be to this car ??

from another forum it would apear that the schumacher is legal to compete and can do so

Competition is good, as said, having another car in the class can only make the class stronger.

I like Mardave, I like Schumacher. But which is best ? There's only one way to find out !!!!!................:thumbsup:

ditto from another forum

One make series for the SupaStox or Mardave?

for me the Mardave wins hands down, would never think of getting a schumacher, but thats my thoughts.

Why do you think that ?

Car looks good, but will choose a Mardave, and before someone asks why?> because mardave is a mardave. this shuey car looks like a 12th pan with shorter rear wheels. no doubt it might out perform a Dave, but it should have its own class, if you ask me its too much time spent on car that already exists, i could put a Mardave axel in my CRC and call it a 12th superstox. i'm quite diassapointed in Schumacher, they give us great stuff and new thinking but this seems like a 12 year old boy who just copied his mate on a maths test at school. (cough BMI 12th)

tbh most companies copy each other to a certain extent..
to me the mardaves just remind me of the good old days when they were chucked together in the shed, schumacher have just brought it up to date ..

Personnally i like the new superstox :D
tempted to get one for next winter to race against tamiya m06's and put a ford anglia shell on it :thumbsup:

:confused::confused::confused:
so this does not look like a pan car?

http://s4db7d0eddc5f2.img.gostorego....6e95/1/_/1.jpg

dont see why both can not run side by side, hell how many 2wd buggies are now mid motor!!

Oh dont get me wrong the Shuey Car looks great, and yeah the dave does have a pancar style to it. i think the Shuey will out perform the Daves, i think thats the reason it shouldnt run together, it getting its out class i believe from what i here. it just seems to be trying to hard for a simple class of racing.

LOL
 

you was told it was on its way

6 cell / 2s version on redrc
http://www.redrc.net/2012/04/schumac...addle-version/

will be legal for brca national!
 

fingers crossed these should be arriving today :)

Received mine an hour ago :P

So just before I decide which to get. Looking at the rules the Schumacher will not be allowed to have a diff in circuit (As the kit costs £99.99 with no diff), and the £99 mardave carbon ce is allowed to run a diff? (As chris has changed the rrp).

then re read the rules i posted

GT12.1 kits can include carbon-fibre parts providing they are included in the kit and the kit costs less than £100. Diffs and other hop-ups are allowed, and parts can be modified and have home-made bits added. It's like GT12 racing on the same basis as 12th Circuit, with the exception of the kit price limit and that carbon parts are only those sold with the kit. GT12.2 kits must cost less than £100, contain no carbon parts or a diff, and have to be raced kit-standard without hop-ups or home-made parts - run what's in the box.

if i get a schumacher and run it stock what class does it fall into

you can race in either class with a stock car

So Can I race a Mardave CE carbon in the 12.2 stock class, as the diff and carbon is in the Kit for £99.

as I read it no you cannot as it says gt12.2 must cost less than £100, contain no carbon parts or a diff

so as I understand it regardeless of the fact that it costs under £100 and comes with a diff and a carbon chassis it's not allowed in gt12.2 as it has a diff and carbon chassis

I am guessing that the supastox is allowed in both classes as it has an s1 chassis not carbon
also by looking at the rules unless they throw it into the kit there wont be a supastox carbon chassis (good mean's I wont be tempted by my carbon fetish lol)

going to hobbyshop today to see if they have arrived fingers crossed lol

picking up mine to day from action model centre (AMC)

If thats the case you cant run either as the CE and Superstox have carbon fibre chassis (or versions there off).

Confused

READ THE RULES !!! The Superstox isn't carbon it's S1 :woot:

NO it has a carbon chassis and diff 12.1 only
wrong schumacher is S1 NOT carbon
bloody good advice :thumbsup:

The s1 is a carbon fibre composite I am affraid as the advert from Schumacher’s own website states. So the Mardave is also actually not full carbon fibre either with grp in the centre of the carbon sandwich.
Does this mean neither car is legal?

http://www.racing-cars.com/main.asp?sitepages=mi35
"The Mi3.5 also offers you more choice, from the awesomely specified Mi3.5 PRO with full carbon fibre and titanium, available in 5 or 6 cell versions or the more durable Mi3.5 RACE (6 cell) using Schumacher’s famous S1 carbon composite material."

I am just trying to get some clarity for my local club as we would like to run to the brca handbook rules. So any guidance would be appreciated.

One is sold as carbon fibre chassis, one is sold as s1

Example a manufactures carbon composite wishbones are not made of carbon fibre

Ah cool so the s1 wishbones are moulded composite. Is the stox chassis moulded composite also? If not then its not "s1" it would have to be one or the other as if the two are both sold as s1 but are both different in make up then how can they both be s1?.
S1 may well just be a Marketing name for carbon fibre?
If so then Mardave could call their chassis cegrp and it would then be legal as its not sold as carbon fibre? Or even another party could make chassis out of whatever they wish but call it something else and it then be legal?

The S1 material is a long way from being carbon fibre.

For clarification:

Carbon Composite. this term is normally used far a thermoplastic with an amount of carbon fibers ( as in B4 carbon vs. plastic chassis)

S1 is Schumachers name for a black glassfiber polyresin composite " glassfiber"
the black color gives it s somewhat " carbonfiber look"

the term Carbon fiber is used for the carbonfiber polyresin composite ( that shiny woven stuff that we all like but is expensive)

Cruise