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Wraggy 07-04-2008 08:21 AM

Generator
 
Im after a cheap ish generator, nothing to flash but something that can link 3 or so charges to?? Don’t want to spend the earth either...
Any ideas or links to some??

Cheers

Jamie B4 07-04-2008 09:11 AM

Geny
 
Make that 2 generators needed want one to run caravan for nationals - Kipor ones are ok - but are not proper genies

losixxx 07-04-2008 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie B4 (Post 111296)
Kipor ones are ok - but are not proper genies

what are they then m8??:woot:

bigred5765 07-04-2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie B4 (Post 111296)
Make that 2 generators needed want one to run caravan for nationals - Kipor ones are ok - but are not proper genies

had mine over two years now never skipped a beat
as long as its stored correctly:thumbsup:

Body Paint 07-04-2008 11:41 AM

If your happy to mix fuel then Screwfix do a decent little 2 stroker for around £80. You do have to be absoloutely spot on with the fuel/oil mix though.

Jamie B4 07-04-2008 11:48 AM

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Thanks Craig but I'm after a 4 stroke can not be bothered mixing fuel etc just want to buy normal fuel and leave it for the day.

The Kipor output is not like a normal geny it send out an output then amplifies it up, so if you need to run something big on it, it stalls

jim76 07-04-2008 11:53 AM

my mates one comes from Costco for around £50. very similar to the 2 stroke Wolf models. works faultlessly and happily runs a few chargers/dischargers/soldering iron. i've never mixed the fuel too precisely and it doesn't complain.

The wolf model is available from wolf-online for about £90.

bigred5765 07-04-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie B4 (Post 111353)
Thanks Craig but I'm after a 4 stroke can not be bothered mixing fuel etc just want to buy normal fuel and leave it for the day.

The Kipor output is not like a normal geny it send out an output then amplifies it up, so if you need to run something big on it, it stalls

that just means the one you have is to small for what your trying to run on it

Wraggy 07-04-2008 12:03 PM

thanks Craig , Makro near me has one for sale around 80 so i think i may invest in them .
what oil do you use in them ???

jim76 07-04-2008 12:04 PM

just normal 2 stroke oil, available from most petrol stations. the gennie usually has a little measuring cup under the petrol cap.

Wraggy 07-04-2008 12:10 PM

cheers Jim , so will a 650 w 2 stroke run 3 chargers comfortable ???

super__dan 07-04-2008 12:17 PM

In its sleep, well yes anyway!

Wraggy 07-04-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 111374)
In its sleep, well yes anyway!

what should i be looking for then Dan ??
need to get something this week ..

mark christopher 07-04-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie B4 (Post 111353)
Thanks Craig but I'm after a 4 stroke can not be bothered mixing fuel etc just want to buy normal fuel and leave it for the day.

The Kipor output is not like a normal geny it send out an output then amplifies it up, so if you need to run something big on it, it stalls

they only stall if you over load em, my 2000 kipor runs my caravan and chargers etc no problem, even does microwave

Lee 07-04-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 111380)
even does microwave


Amazing, is that an optional extra:lol:


I need to get one too, how noisey are the 2 stroke ones?

bigred5765 07-04-2008 12:42 PM

abit to nosey for me and smelly

jim76 07-04-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 111369)
cheers Jim , so will a 650 w 2 stroke run 3 chargers comfortable ???

think ours is 800w, but it should be fine as Dan said. i can't remember the calculation to convert W/V/Amps etc. no doubt someone who can remember their physics A-levels will post up confirmation!

josh_smaxx 07-04-2008 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jim76 (Post 111388)
think ours is 800w, but it should be fine as Dan said. i can't remember the calculation to convert W/V/Amps etc. no doubt someone who can remember their physics A-levels will post up confirmation!

Watts = Voltage x Current

GCSE now!!!!!

Lee 07-04-2008 01:04 PM

whats your powerfactor josh


I came up with 3.14A


I= W/V x pf:thumbsup:

josh_smaxx 07-04-2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 111401)
whats your powerfactor josh


I came up with 3.14A


I= W/V cos x pf:thumbsup:

I dunno, i said its GCSE science, not that i listen, i got that off the first page on google :thumbsup:

ashleyb4 07-04-2008 01:10 PM

I came out at 2.8 amps off a 650w generator not sure how right that is ;)

I should know this lol

A

josh_smaxx 07-04-2008 01:13 PM

Do genny's put out 240v or 12v? i though they were 12v but im obviously wrong, coz that would mean 54A!!!

Lee 07-04-2008 01:15 PM

230v, your power supply brings it down to 12v:lol:

Ash your getting 2.8 because your not including a pf. assumed to be 0.9:confused:

losixxx 07-04-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie B4 (Post 111353)
Thanks Craig but I'm after a 4 stroke can not be bothered mixing fuel etc just want to buy normal fuel and leave it for the day.

The Kipor output is not like a normal geny it send out an output then amplifies it up, so if you need to run something big on it, it stalls

m8 my kipor happily run's my caravan including the lcd tv,dvd,microwave,hot water,lights plus all my race electric's etc, only thing its struggles with is wife hair dryer when most of the rest are switch on

Lee 07-04-2008 01:57 PM

I think this wouls be ideal, i think i might have a look at these babies:thumbsup:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-KVA-SILENT-R...em190212011832

super__dan 07-04-2008 03:23 PM

As I see it,

Power = Amps * Volts
So
650W = 650/240 = 2.7A @240V or 650/7.2V = 90A @ 7.2V (assuming you had enough racing power supplies to convert it all down).

This is massively approximated but as you can see, charging 3, 7.2V packs at 5A = 15A @ 7.2V so is well inside the max output of the generator. There are lots of other things to take into consideration so the math isn’t spot on but you get the idea. We used to run a tent of people charging and the tele off my old Honda. The other thing to take into account is that the more power you pull from it the more petrol you use.

I bought one of these last year http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNUSED-PORTABL...QQcmdZViewItem but only used it twice as we started using Vermins as it was cheaper on fuel to run 2 tents worth of stuff off his and share fuel that run both tens off separate generators.

I’d consider selling it if you were interested, could bring it to Kiddie as long as my cast comes off tomorrow so I can drive. It’s like the one above but not a caged one, has a handle on top. I t is a 4 stroke one so no arseing about with 2 stroke oil. Try before you buy?

burgie 07-04-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 111418)
I think this wouls be ideal, i think i might have a look at these babies:thumbsup:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-KVA-SILENT-R...em190212011832

it looks good, but 5 hours running off one tank full? that doesn't appear to be too good?

Lee 07-04-2008 04:08 PM

That will be at full current draw though id imagine.

It might be worth a try, they knocked back an offer for 85 quid:thumbdown::lol:

super__dan 07-04-2008 04:27 PM

Lee, that looks like a 'copy' of the older Honda design, like the Kippor is a very close resemblance of the newer ones. In which case it's going to be more than £85! When my old man bought our genuine Honda one back in the day it was nearly £700 :-0

Lee 07-04-2008 04:29 PM

You can buy them now dan for 100:thumbsup:

I was just being cheeky

Kecky 07-04-2008 04:32 PM

Am I reading it wrong, or does it say starting bid 89.99 at the top, then lower down, buy it now price 99.99????




ha ha ha.....thought so


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