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The race controller 29-03-2012 10:17 PM

Track marker
 
Shall we get rid of the Orange pipe.????
If anyone remembers our first Chadderton meetings, the fire hose we used to inflate wasn't very good because the hose was old and had tiny holes so it deflated. Well what about NEW hose? We have a compressor at the track. Winding it up would be so much easier.
I saw this:-
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-MTRS-3...ht_3249wt_1060

Deano 29-03-2012 10:21 PM

Sounds like a good idea.

coleman758 29-03-2012 10:34 PM

Good idea,
But that blue stuff looks thin...

Let's get a role and see how it goes, it won't hurt.

Corner of a shock tower or a spinning wheel could pop it?
What about that more flexible stuff rob got ?

bigred5765 29-03-2012 10:40 PM

any fire brigade will give you hose for free, it usually has a small rip or tire thats repairable or cut of easily

Col 29-03-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 638102)

I used to sell that.
It's expensive for a good reason! Very heavy and very durable - no way anything other than a SHARP edge will damage it.
2 downsides that spring to mind... Once it's unravelled and "inflated" (either by air or water) then it becomes circular and not all that easy to roll up again. This gets worse everytime, and secondly it will be a nightmare to use! Once "inflated" it wants to become perfectly straight and will not (easily) be good for corners.

HTH

Verde 30-03-2012 07:14 AM

I know I've only been once, but I didn't think putting the orange pipe away was too much trouble. Its plus points are its very flexible, can take a lot of stick and it doesn't matter if you pierce it... It should last for ever. I agree with Col re the blue pipe, put air or water in and it could do what it wants including ripping pegs out.

johnnygibbon 30-03-2012 10:30 AM

Will the blue pipe fit inside the orange stuff
So we could have blue letghs for straights with flexy orange corners
Also have you seen how cheadle set out there indoor track with wooden planks joined with wing nuts and coach bolts and half tyres and wooden blocks to join it
It's really effective cars cant jump it but it still flexes and doesnt smash cats up and fast to set up and pack away
Have a look on Stockport mcc website it could combine with what we got quite easily I reckon

Howler 30-03-2012 02:06 PM

Not sure, but something easier to handle than the orange pipe would definitely be a good idea.

mattybucks 30-03-2012 02:12 PM

If you do decide to change over then I'll be willing to take the orange stuff off you should you be looking to get rid of it?

Darren Wales 30-03-2012 03:09 PM

ROPE?
 
What about something like this as a possible idea of Rob's that I like too?

http://www.ropesandtwines.com/prodde...8mm_nylon_rope

or the thicker 24mm, although not on offer here!

http://www.ropesandtwines.com/prodde...4mm_nylon_rope.

The weight of this stuff may even be enough to negate the need for pinning it down!

We could even look to get it in colours if possible.. for example (you need to click on the leisure marine pic and then scroll down to the Polysteel - 24mm on the right hand side half way down. The yellow stuff at £1.50 a metre looks a bargain to me).

http://cheaprope.rtrk.co.uk/?scid=42..._id=8248623570

at £1.50 a metre a bargain.

What you think?

Darren

coleman758 30-03-2012 03:43 PM

Cruise Ship Ropes! Thats what we need!

budfish 30-03-2012 03:48 PM

You lot are missing the point it's features we are missing not track markings !!!

The race controller 30-03-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 638357)
You lot are missing the point it's features we are missing not track markings !!!

You lot are missing the point --------piddling little rope wont stop the truck cutting.

---------------the Big feature is done. Needs painting and correcting one of my cockups. Perhaps a little tweek also.

budfish 30-03-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 638377)
You lot are missing the point --------piddling little rope wont stop the truck cutting.

---------------the Big feature is done. Needs painting and correcting one of my cockups. Perhaps a little tweek also.

Ha ha I dread to think. I don't drive trucks:confused::confused::confused::confused::con fused::confused::confused::confused:

The race controller 30-03-2012 05:16 PM

TRACK cutting by TRUCKS
And I thought you were clever........how wrong can one be.

budfish 30-03-2012 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 638405)
TRACK cutting by TRUCKS
And I thought you were clever........how wrong can one be.

Trucks are killing machines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shortcoursegoat 30-03-2012 05:29 PM

they only cut the track to try an catch my truck :thumbsup:

MikePimlott 30-03-2012 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 638377)
You lot are missing the point --------piddling little rope wont stop the truck cutting.

---------------the Big feature is done. Needs painting and correcting one of my cockups. Perhaps a little tweek also.

Been building wooden features ???

Darren Wales 30-03-2012 07:07 PM

you having a dig at me here?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The race controller (Post 638405)
TRACK cutting by TRUCKS
And I thought you were clever........how wrong can one be.

Hang on a moment Roger, you start a thread asking for ideas on track markings and criticise when you get some. The rope would be of a similar thickness to our current stuff and short of using sleepers all the way round the truck drivers that choose to cut corners Will do, come what may!

Let's hope your new construction is the dogs and can't attract any criticism on Sunday.

Si Coe 30-03-2012 07:58 PM

I can't honestly see how we can make something that isn't going to damage a buggy, is capable of stopping a rampaging short course truck and isn't too high to see over. Unless we make the track markers out of upright perspex sheets!

losichris 30-03-2012 08:38 PM

if they dont want to race around track markings, why dont they save £5 and race on an empty car park?

Deano 30-03-2012 10:20 PM

It's a difficult one. Always is, trying to please everyone. I do think that the orange pipe is a bit of a pain to roll up at the end of racing.

This is not really a suggestion, more just throwing in an idea, but many moons ago when I did 12th scale carpet racing we had old lengths of fire hose loosely filled with sand. They didn't damage the cars since they weren't packed tightly with sand and they had a little "give" in them but they were heavy enough to remain in position quite well. We stored them straight (rather than rolled up) piled on top of each other under the Church hall stage.

May or may not be worthy of further thought.

coleman758 30-03-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortcoursegoat (Post 638409)
they only cut the track to try an catch my truck :thumbsup:

My truck ;)

shortcoursegoat 30-03-2012 11:06 PM

agree if your talking about last year at bury but im on about sunday past ;)

budfish 31-03-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwales1 (Post 638344)
What about something like this as a possible idea of Rob's that I like too?

http://www.ropesandtwines.com/prodde...8mm_nylon_rope

or the thicker 24mm, although not on offer here!

http://www.ropesandtwines.com/prodde...4mm_nylon_rope.

The weight of this stuff may even be enough to negate the need for pinning it down!

We could even look to get it in colours if possible.. for example (you need to click on the leisure marine pic and then scroll down to the Polysteel - 24mm on the right hand side half way down. The yellow stuff at £1.50 a metre looks a bargain to me).

http://cheaprope.rtrk.co.uk/?scid=42..._id=8248623570

at £1.50 a metre a bargain.

What you think?

Darren

So at 24mm thats not that thick just over an inch I reckon you need it 3 inch thick but rope seems like a good idea to me.

Col 31-03-2012 03:28 PM

We have some fire hose at York that might be 1.5" thick. It's a massive pain in the butt.
Fine for marking the track, but utterly useless at stopping anything going over it.

rob m 07-04-2012 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deano (Post 638523)
It's a difficult one. Always is, trying to please everyone. I do think that the orange pipe is a bit of a pain to roll up at the end of racing.

This is not really a suggestion, more just throwing in an idea, but many moons ago when I did 12th scale carpet racing we had old lengths of fire hose loosely filled with sand. They didn't damage the cars since they weren't packed tightly with sand and they had a little "give" in them but they were heavy enough to remain in position quite well. We stored them straight (rather than rolled up) piled on top of each other under the Church hall stage.

May or may not be worthy of further thought.

this sounds a good idea to me, the sand filled hose. the hose i had a sample of is great as its very flexible,light to handle, uv protected,designed to be constantly moved and a good dia 3". but itl still need pegging and its expensive.

Howler 07-04-2012 01:08 PM

Not sure it would need pegging, depends how heavy it is with the sand in it. Probably enough to stop the buggies moving it, but not the trucks which can be over twice the weight.

Col 07-04-2012 02:30 PM

Seems to me your truck drivers need some driving lessons!
Track markers are supposed to mark the track, not prevent things going over them. Maybe you boys need a brick layer?

Darren Wales 07-04-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 641347)
Seems to me your truck drivers need some driving lessons!
Track markers are supposed to mark the track, not prevent things going over them. Maybe you boys need a brick layer?

My thoughts exactly! :eh?:

Darren Wales 17-04-2012 07:29 PM

Fire hose
 
All, update on track marking debate

despite my best efforts to try and blag some old fire hose off the fire service for free, i have been unsuccessful! however I have managed to get a very good deal from the company which the fire service now use to service and repair old hose as follows:

20 meter lengths of fire hose for £20 per length.

so if we want 300m then £300 these include coupling to join them.

I strongly believe that this is a good deal. If we buy some sand, fill them, plug them and we can leave them out chained to the fence which will save loads of set up and clear up time. We could keep some of the smaller pieces of the orange stuff but off load most to the club that has enquired on here.

The committee are discussing this offer and should we agree we will get it to the track well in time for the regional in a couple of weeks.

Darren

Howler 22-04-2012 09:14 AM

Sounds like a good idea to me Darren, so long as the club bank balance is still healthy.

Si Coe 22-04-2012 09:34 AM

We are going to try filling some of the hose we use indoors first, see how that goes.
Anyone got a really big funnel?

Howler 22-04-2012 04:35 PM

Proof of concept eh? You could make a funnel with a wide nozzle out of anything...


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