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Rogers Regional Poll
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2WD / 4WD on same day but drivers can only enter one class per event.
That would limit numbers and open up places without having to change calendars. Seperate days for seperate classes is good for drivers wanting to do regionals, but has a negative impact on regular club calendars / attendances for the host clubs. |
I picked separate Sunday's because I only drive 4wd so chances are it would be a shorter day with plenty of places for everyone who wants to race. But I'm not sure how it would effect club numbers
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I picked seperate Sundays as I have two mates who wanted to enter the series this year that are not booked in for Southport, so it'd be good if there were more places made available :thumbsup:
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When classes are run on one day format, when club is running a regional the other two clubs are closed at the moment. So thats 4 closed days due to regionals for each club. For the seperate sundays format we get 12 events each club hosting 4. That means 8 closed (or low attendace days) for each club due to regionals. The region has too many drivers for the one day format, but not enough drivers to support a two day format AND keep three clubs well attended. |
I reckon you need to have at least one extra date for each class if not two cause if each class is 3 out of 3 scoring and you are away for one you're bollocksed. So like mid west should be perhaps 3 from 5 in each or 3 from 4. So 10 or 8 sundays total.
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I've voted "OTHER" to represent 2WD / 4WD same day restricted to one class per driver.
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Bury metro can and has put club meets on and still get 60 drivers when say southports regionals have been ran on the same day due to the amount of younger drivers and the added sc class |
Sat 2wd Sunday 4wd alternating year to year So even if you've only got Sundays free you will still be able to race your chosen class in a regional once every 2 years so it's fair all round and means we get a full weekend of racing To
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Our members at Bury
Most of our current members want to race EVERY week so I'm for opening while Regionals are on at other clubs...........Like the old days.
............And yes I am old. |
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read it again Sam
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Well, here's a thought budfish, and the others who like to criticise without offering help;
Stop moaning, get in touch with woody and offer to setup a nw regional committee with him. Sit on that committee and do something constructive. |
If I thought people would take me seriously I would.
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seperate sundays for regionals,
get someone else to run club for people that wana do a club day, |
Both same day
And only people who live in the north west! As per a couple of years ago! Only one class per meeting also! |
I haven't voted yet, because I think other points affect how I would vote.
How many entries are from people completing the required minimum of rounds? Is the series over subscribed with people doing 1 , 2 or 3 rounds, and therefore being effectively irrelevant to the "Series". My personal outlook is that the regional SERIES is there for the interested drivers to attain a BRCA grading from F2-F4 (F5 being assigned regardless). Therefore the series should cater firstly for drivers willing to compete to attain the above grades through committing to the required events. I think this is a good argument to give preference to the individuals that fall into the above criteria. Whilst this may be controversial, I believe that means any current F1 drivers should also be considered to have a lower priority than the drivers trying to achieve a formula via the regional series. |
I think that seperate sundays would be better, so we may only get 8 or 9 heats in 2wd or 6 or 7 in 4wd but at least for those that have to travel for 2 or more hours will get home at better time on a sunday evening and it would of course give those drivers that normley do both classes on the same day a more relaxed day.
Well thats my opinion. I'm Mike Bradbury if anyone was wondering.... |
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you can run regional and non scoring on same day 4wd had 87 booked in leaving 30 40 places for non count club racers |
i clicked 2wd and 4wd on same day as is, however i supose i should have clicked other as i agree with others and think 2wd and 4wd on same day but one class per driver:thumbsup:
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The issue of people doing enough rounds is central to this. The last few years the numbers actually doing the required 4 has been rather low.
However, the problem there is one of location and weather. Southport and Bury aren't that far apart, and a large portion of the regions racers live quite near both. South Lakes, Batley and Keighley are all much further away, so for many racers the easy, cheap route to 4 rounds is to do the Southport and Bury meets, and miss out the 'away' rounds. Then it rains like it did for Bury's round last year and people don't come - suddenly a huge chunk of racers missing enough rounds to score. Truth is there isn't a solution to that problem unless we ran indoors! |
agree
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one class per driver is rather poor,
but thats what this poll is for, peoples opinions :thumbsup: |
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Two day format takes a lot of days out of the calendar, even if a club opens whilst another is hosting it still means that date has to be written off and can't be used for a club competition or such like. Two day format obviously benefits those drivers that want to follow event type meetings, but detrimantal to regular club attendances. With a limited number of venues and a limited number of drivers it comes down to a balance of satisying both competition events and club racing. |
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Roger, I do agree with both you and Mike, however my main point was that in my eyes (I'm happy to listen to other views) the regional series is for drivers to try attain formula's F4 through F2 at the end of it.
If you are already F1 in the current year, you could at worst drop a grade to F2. For this reason any current F1 driver has nothing to gain by doing the regional series, as they could not better F2, the top grade available from the series. |
I vote other - 2wd and 4wd run on the same day but only 1 class per person.
This allows 120 - 130 drivers to enter regional meetings without people hogging places by running 2 classes. |
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I might not know much, but I don't think you could actually turn anyone away who holds a valid BRCA licence... but what do I know? :lol: |
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The point is this is a BRCA series, and therefore must be run to the rules in the BRCA rule book, *some* of these are allowed to have a 'regional variation', but it's not possible to just go making new ones up *I THINK* <-- that last bit is my opinion and is not an official statement from the BRCA (no matter what it says in my sig) and is in case I am wrong - I have been wrong before, 1998 I think it was...... :lol:
I'm sure Stu is talking to the people he needs to to sort this out, but I feel for him, his new job is not an easy job when things are going smoothly. |
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In an ideal world we would have 2x seperate 6 round series, but if only shared across 3 clubs it is also a shit option. Everything comes down to lessers of evils. |
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Sly - I know about Batley and Keighley, but that sort of shows up my point. The series is down to 3 clubs as it is and one is quite remote from the other two (good though it is). If Bury or Southport decided the same as Batley and pulled out the whole thing would fold...... |
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Mikes point was a very good one, having top quality F1 drivers at regionals only serves as an incentive to lesser drivers to better themselves. |
i know I'm going to get flak over this but so what
the easiest option is for the guys that didn't get in to buck there ideas up and book in earlier next time end of, |
Voted 'Other', limit people to 1 class but keep the format the same, in my view it is part of the competition, pick your best class and stick with it for the regionals. Why shouldn't F1's race regionals, especially this year there are no North West tracks on the Nationals so our 'local' F1's miss out on their local tracks?
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I've voted for other.
I think if we could get everyone pre booked, and pre paid, be it down to a central system, or individual clubs/paypal, the clubs should be able to post a heat list the day before, and be 100% strict on a start time, say 8.30, that would save a good chunk of time at the start of the meeting, probably needs just over 30 mins to run an extra heat and i don't remember starting racing before 9.30, that should squeeze in an extra 22 cars. then if we're still over booked, limit to one class per driver, with second cars on a reserve list |
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