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cigbunt 04-02-2012 12:49 PM

pay pal fee's
 
could someone explain the paypal fee's i dont quite get it... :woot:









joke

jimmy 04-02-2012 12:55 PM

:thumbsup:

RC Cut 04-02-2012 01:46 PM

Paypal 's fee is related to your specific country and the policy .

IF you are a USA User , fee is the least - 2.9% , no withdraw charge ,if you are Europe user fee is 3.9% i think with withdraw fee .

Asia users are charged the most , 3.5% + $35

Getpip 04-02-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigbunt (Post 616352)
could someone explain the paypal fee's i dont quite get it... :woot:

joke

What's PayPal? ;)

bigred5765 04-02-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigbunt (Post 616352)
could someone explain the paypal fee's i don't quite get it... :woot:









joke

this ones easy :thumbsup:

some big cheese at paypal charges you vast amounts for doing sod all, and we take it with a thanks :thumbdown:

Big G 04-02-2012 01:58 PM

not quite sod all. they provide a valuable service to us making online purchasing very quick and easy.

colmo 04-02-2012 02:00 PM

Sorry about kicking this off - and then getting it wrong...proving maths and Bushmills do not mix.

I was trying to work out how much to pay someone such that they got exactly the amount agreed, so that I covered the fees. It's not as easy as it looks, because, as was pointed out, you have to pay fees on the extra you added on to pay fees.

I'll have it sussed in a jiffy, I'm trying to get my maths up to scratch for my OU studies, this is good practice.

bodgit 04-02-2012 02:05 PM

This was posted in the for sale section this morning
http://ppcalc.com/uk it explains it all.

bigred5765 04-02-2012 02:06 PM

£3 for every 100

bodgit 04-02-2012 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 616390)
£3 for every 100


No £3.73

VintageRacer 04-02-2012 02:16 PM

Please take this in the spirit it is intended.

If the amount of money sent = S and the amount of money received = R

Then

R = S - 0.2 - (S x 3.6%)
So

R + 0.2 = S(1 - 0.036)

Which means that

S = (R + 0.2) / 0.964

That is all assuming the 3.6% is charged on the 20p fixed charge which I assume it will be.

Much easier to use the web site to calculate it for you.
And yes I am a bit of a geek.

RudolfXC 04-02-2012 02:40 PM

From here:

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...side&countries=

the fee is 3.4% + £0.20 and not 3.6% + £0.20

colmo 04-02-2012 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudolfXC (Post 616401)
From here:

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...side&countries=

the fee is 3.4% + £0.20 and not 3.6% + £0.20

He does, however, get marks for showing his working :)

mark christopher 04-02-2012 02:46 PM

FFS pay 4% then or send it as a friggin gift and let paypal work it out:thumbdown:

SlowOne 04-02-2012 02:48 PM

http://gifs.gifbin.com/052009/124222...ive_a_damn.gif

VintageRacer 04-02-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudolfXC (Post 616401)
From here:

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/we...side&countries=

the fee is 3.4% + £0.20 and not 3.6% + £0.20

So you don't pay the percentage on the 20p.
That changes things completlely.

Irri Tant 04-02-2012 03:08 PM

colmo, Location: Fermanagh, N. Ireland

says it all really :thumbsup:

cigbunt 04-02-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 616403)
FFS pay 4% then or send it as a friggin gift and let paypal work it out:thumbdown:

re gifting.. it still seems to add fee's what options do you choose? (i have a Premier account) i always just send as a goods payment any ways best way...


btw i asked my 1st post in Jest lol:woot:

The Chef 04-02-2012 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 616379)
this ones easy :thumbsup:

some big cheese at paypal charges you vast amounts for doing sod all, and we take it with a thanks :thumbdown:

YOUR just annoyed you didn't think of it:p

They do offer some fab buyer protection in all honesty.

VintageRacer 04-02-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 616412)
YOUR just annoyed you didn't think of it:p

They do offer some fab buyer protection in all honesty.


Annoyingly I did, probably after they had to be fair, but before I knew it exisited.

mark christopher 04-02-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigbunt (Post 616411)
re gifting.. it still seems to add fee's what options do you choose? (i have a Premier account) i always just send as a goods payment any ways best way...


btw i asked my 1st post in Jest lol:woot:

all i do is if i buy an item for £20 and agree to pay fees, then i add 4% and inform the seller what im paying so i would pay him £20.80
if i pay by gift i use my bank account then i or the seller dont get charged for fee's.(but you have no protection so only use if you know the seller)
if you pay via gift and use your credit card they charge the one sending the payment. .(but you have no protection so only use if you know the seller)

colmo 04-02-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irri Tant (Post 616410)
colmo, Location: Fermanagh, N. Ireland

says it all really :thumbsup:

It's not my fault we're surrounded by fine whiskey...seems a shame not to sample it...

colmo 04-02-2012 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VintageRacer (Post 616417)
Annoyingly I did, probably after they had to be fair, but before I knew it exisited.

Paypal extended the cover they provide for eBay to all purchases (non-gift), eBay or not, within the last 2 year iirc. It was probably to attract web retailers to use them in preference to credit cards.

Col 04-02-2012 08:50 PM

IF it was up to me... (and thank god for you lot it isn't)

Anyone who requests a gift payment should be banned from here and paypal.
Anyone who sends a gift payment deserves to be ripped off.

Simples.

simon 04-02-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 616596)
IF it was up to me... (and thank god for you lot it isn't)

Anyone who requests a gift payment should be banned from here and paypal.
Anyone who sends a gift payment deserves to be ripped off.

Simples.

Obviously works for pay pal!!!!!:thumbsup:

mark christopher 04-02-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 616596)
IF it was up to me... (and thank god for you lot it isn't)

Anyone who requests a gift payment should be banned from here and paypal.
Anyone who sends a gift payment deserves to be ripped off.

Simples.

i dont mind anyone sending me a paypal gift? anyone want my details?

i dont see why folks dont just ask buyer to pay the fees!! oh wait............... some can not work it out LOL

dibble34 04-02-2012 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 616596)
IF it was up to me... (and thank god for you lot it isn't)

Anyone who requests a gift payment should be banned from here and paypal.
Anyone who sends a gift payment deserves to be ripped off.

Simples.


You win my vote :thumbsup:

Col 04-02-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon (Post 616622)
Obviously works for pay pal!!!!!:thumbsup:

Nope.

We don't expect the plumber to repair out pipes for free, so why should we expect paypal to send out money round the world for free?

xfactor 04-02-2012 10:27 PM

COL im a plumber, 100% behind you mate and i would charge alot more than paypal :woot:

Layloo9136 04-02-2012 10:36 PM

Gifts
 
There is nothing wrong with Paypal gifts for purchasing, so long as the buyer isn't thick! Sure, maybe gifting to someone you dont know is a risk, so pay the fees until you do know them.

I give all my buyers the option - I send them my address and say its entirely up to you - you canvsee my trusted feedback so you can save a quid or two and do gift, or you can do it normally for coverage - so I leave it up to customers.

So far, only 1 out of the 7 or 8 trades chose to do it with fees as opposed to gift. So I guess people like saving money if it is with somneone reputable.

RC Cut 05-02-2012 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Getpip (Post 616377)
What's PayPal? ;)


You donn't know what is Paypal ???

It is now the most popular online payment tool !

RC Cut 05-02-2012 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodgit (Post 616392)
No £3.73


So you only have 2 choices :

1 : add £3.73 more in your sales price .

2 : forget about this profit loss in trade


Paypal 's service i think is at easy using , fast pay .

But still the fee is high

bodgit 05-02-2012 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmac (Post 616738)
So you only have 2 choices :

1 : add £3.73 more in your sales price .

2 : forget about this profit loss in trade


Paypal 's service i think is at easy using , fast pay .

But still the fee is high

NO read the link. http://ppcalc.com/uk
£3.73 is the amount includinng fee,s you have to send for the reciever to recieve £100

Moozo 05-02-2012 08:08 AM

I sent £50 from my wifes paypal account/bank account to my own paypal account as a gift (coz lets face it i can't rip myself off:woot:) and it still charged my wife's account £1.90!!!
Yet i have sent money before and not been charged at all!!!

I don't mind the charges as long as there consitent, i never know when i get charged if at all.

I totally agree with Col when it comes to asking for gift payments (no-one is covered)

The buyer should ask for the amount they want so that everyone is covered.....you wouldn't buy a supercar and pay by gift (i.e no warranty/proof of purchase)

tellor 05-02-2012 08:29 AM

Derrr!


why don't people just add the fee's themselves like they do the postage?

simples!

bally 05-02-2012 08:49 AM

Lets face it we all save a fortune on eBay/advertising fees by using this site, so i personally feel everyone should accept loosing the PayPal % when they sell an item. If someone wants to send the payment as a gift thats there choice.

RC Cut 05-02-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodgit (Post 616740)
NO read the link. http://ppcalc.com/uk
£3.73 is the amount includinng fee,s you have to send for the reciever to recieve £100

Are you charged some Money when you take out the Money from Paypal into your Bank account ?

IF Yes , what 's the Amount ?

RC Cut 05-02-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodgit (Post 616740)
NO read the link. http://ppcalc.com/uk
£3.73 is the amount includinng fee,s you have to send for the reciever to recieve £100

True problem is not here !

True problem is when the Order is $1000 , IF you pay the receivee $1000 , He only can receive $960 , $40 was charged ! . And so : Who pay such a high fee ?

Sender pay or receiver himself afford ??

Remember if you have 10 Orders of $1000 via Paypal , That is at least $300 fee !!!

Col 05-02-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmac (Post 616762)
Remember if you have 10 Orders of $1000 via Paypal , That is at least $300 fee !!!

Good!

You don't sell your stuff for free, why should PayPal send you the money for free?

RC Cut 05-02-2012 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 616803)
Good!

You don't sell your stuff for free, why should PayPal send you the money for free?


Paypal only suits small order payment , Not suits big amount trade


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