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johnboy 01-02-2012 12:02 PM

COUGAR SV2
 
http://www.rc-area.co.uk/2012/02/01/...er-cougar-sv2/

racingdwarf 01-02-2012 02:12 PM

About time they did somthing, first car was dredfull in all but the best hands:woot:. it will have to be a vast improvement to regain most club drivers confidence in the car. I hope its better I loved the look of the cougar,indoors I liked it and a british firm:thumbsup:. but got fed up with the constant spend and I never had the hours needed to get it set up:bored:......

colmo 01-02-2012 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 615084)

I saw Tom Cockerill testing something like this in Dublin in the Winter Race. It's a proven layout.

I think I'll call it...

"The Sventro" :thumbsup:

wezzer 01-02-2012 02:37 PM

lol @ "The Sventro"

R666REW 01-02-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racingdwarf (Post 615118)
About time they did somthing, first car was dredfull in all but the best hands:woot:. it will have to be a vast improvement to regain most club drivers confidence in the car. I hope its better I loved the look of the cougar,indoors I liked it and a british firm:thumbsup:. but got fed up with the constant spend and I never had the hours needed to get it set up:bored:......

Speak for ur self the cougar sv is a great car and sv 2 will be good 2.

racingdwarf 01-02-2012 05:20 PM

Marmite, one hates & another loves:)

R666REW 01-02-2012 05:32 PM

so when u gonna order yours to add to the list u have in ur sig ?:lol:

hazeandfizz 01-02-2012 11:41 PM

Spot on, have loved running my cougar for the past 18 months, works so well on any surface. Looking forward to seeing the new SV2 in the flesh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R666REW (Post 615181)
Speak for ur self the cougar sv is a great car and sv 2 will be good 2.


gazhillAE 01-02-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wezzer (Post 615129)
lol @ "The Sventro"

Copy cats once again hey wez!
:thumbdown:

cmgreen 02-02-2012 08:24 AM

Cant wait for this! Love schumacher cars of late!

colmo 02-02-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazhillAE (Post 615383)
Copy cats once again hey wez!
:thumbdown:

Out of curiousity, was it Jonathan Clark that came up with the original S2 layout? If so, then the Centro, Sventro and Vega are all copies (the former being somewhat more official as Jonathan was involved).

Most of the 4wds and touring cars use more or less the same layout, it appears we've arrived at a similar point in 2wd mid-motor development. Nothing wrong with that, that's how it goes.

I will say this should be a very good car - Tom Cockerill was lightning quick with his prototype, though he had a Centro and Vega on his tail much of the way.

Main concerns are the turnbuckles and diff, hope they sort those out.

wezzer 02-02-2012 09:17 AM

dont get me wrong , i think it will be a great car :thumbsup: and there are only so many lay outs you can find in a 2wd mid motor car. its all good !

spud31 02-02-2012 09:30 AM

Wait for the 22 version lmao :o:o

mattybucks 02-02-2012 09:53 AM

I've just got off the phone to Schumacher, estimated release date 2-3 weeks. RRP for the Pro kit £259.99, although our price will be £245.99.

As soon as I get a more accurate release date i'll let you know.

Cockerill 02-02-2012 11:23 AM

The diff has been updated to HD, similar to the SX3 diffs. This should remove the majority of problems people had with the SV diff, as it did with the Sx2 > Sx3 diffs.

Gaz, I'd love to know which ideas we have copied, that haven't previously been tried by Schumacher. I'd also like to point out that as Schumacher are credited with making the ball diff, does that not mean every car that has one has copied Schumacher?

simoncrabb 02-02-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 615465)
*stuff Tom said*

:wub You're my favourite. :wub

Disco-Panda 02-02-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 615465)
Gaz, I'd love to know which ideas we have copied, that haven't previously been tried by Schumacher. I'd also like to point out that as Schumacher are credited with making the ball diff, does that not mean every car that has one has copied Schumacher?


At the end of the day the original concept of mid motor car wasnt it orginally started by Ellis and Kevin Lee? i do believe a few years ago kevin was running a modified XXX-CR that he made mid motor himself because i found Kevins original shell in my shed the other day and also remember Kevin running it at Stotfold.

mattybucks 02-02-2012 11:42 AM

What were the old Cougar Chassis made out of........metal :thumbsup:

The emergence of Mid Motor was around 2005/2006 from memory.

Fozzie 02-02-2012 11:53 AM

FAB 2000? Based on a Cougar??

MattW 02-02-2012 11:59 AM

Fact allert - there are very few entirely new ideas / concepts that we see in model cars these days. Mid motor is a long way from new, first one I saw I think was a version of the Cougar 2, and that must have been somewhere around 1992/1993 ish - and that had an alloy chassis as well ;)

colmo 02-02-2012 12:30 PM

I believe this is the first side-by-side saddle mid-motor to be available as a kit, requiring neither a donor chassis nor dremel work.

I'm still calling it the Sventro though!

Will there be some sort of S1 version? With the alloy chassis, there'd be less of a difference between the two, but handy to people wanting to upgrade their existing Cougar rather than sell the old one on.

Robbiejuk 02-02-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colmo (Post 615489)
I believe this is the first side-by-side saddle mid-motor to be available as a kit, requiring neither a donor chassis nor dremel work.
.

Ansmann X2C? :)

Gonky 02-02-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbiejuk (Post 615492)
Ansmann X2C? :)

Boom! :lol:

mattybucks 02-02-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonky (Post 615515)
Boom! :lol:

as the cells go up.

moth898 02-02-2012 01:30 PM

I think the design is great, if you notice there are a couple of holes to change the weight distribution or battery placement. for those who don't like it show some poise and don't turn this into another brand bashing....really boring

simoncrabb 02-02-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 615432)
I've just got off the phone to Schumacher, estimated release date 2-3 weeks. RRP for the Pro kit £259.99, although our price will be £245.99.

As soon as I get a more accurate release date i'll let you know.

Mine's on order!!! Woo yeah woo!

But cos I'm not very special I have to wait to get one with the masses. :( Maybe they'll send me one of the first release review kits if I promise to do a cheesey video?... hint hint...

So yes, rcLazy have got some on order, and we'll do them for the same price as the lovely Telstar Matthew £245.99.

I'll also agree on no definite release date!

colmo 02-02-2012 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonky (Post 615515)
Boom! :lol:

I stand corrected!

fidspeed 02-02-2012 03:51 PM

IIRC as stated already Fabixx did a cougar 2000 mid motor and i think they also did an RC10 tub chassis one its along time ago so i stand to be corrected

Fid

dale 02-02-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidspeed (Post 615591)
IIRC as stated already Fabixx did a cougar 2000 mid motor and i think they also did an RC10 tub chassis one its along time ago so i stand to be corrected

Fid

Ah yes, 'Mad' Mike Barton and his Fab2000 (Cougar based) and Fab10 (RC10 based).

Don't think they were very popular off-road, as at the time UK tracks were mostly grass so I guess rear motor was better.

But on-road (with foam tyres) and on carpet the Fab2000 was excellent, I remember Mike and a couple of others running them at Ashby back in the early 90s.

So really, everyone copied Mad Mike and should thank him for the current layout, even though it's took 18 years to truly catch on :thumbsup:

Northy 02-02-2012 04:10 PM

Wasn't the Tekin conversion for the RC10 before the Fab thing? :confused:

DCM 02-02-2012 04:16 PM

Tekin did indeed do a full mid motor conversion for the original RC10.

Northy 02-02-2012 04:17 PM

I've got one :)

schmacher 02-02-2012 05:47 PM

i need the new motor plate and gear cover for a project that i'm working on...like now :)

OldTimer 02-02-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 615608)
I've got one :)

Me to ;) still in its box to, was ahead of its time.

autoxvw 02-02-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmacher (Post 615641)
i need the new motor plate and gear cover for a project that i'm working on...like now :)

Might that be our joint project? :)
And just to add, (yes i could be wrong) but wasnt the optima mid the first production mid motor car?

OldTimer 02-02-2012 07:18 PM

optima mid was 4wd, one of my fav cars.

racingdwarf 02-02-2012 07:41 PM

mid 4wd, what about the cat short wheel base, mini mustang or the hotshot?:lol: 2wd the hornet...motor was in front of the rear axel, not sure if that improved the handeling tho!

autoxvw 02-02-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 615689)
optima mid was 4wd, one of my fav cars.

My bad. I knew that yeah.....I was just testing everyone :blush:

R666REW 02-02-2012 09:13 PM

Couple of pics of Grants car

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_1452.jpg

R666REW 02-02-2012 09:13 PM

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/IMG_1454.jpg


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