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Chris56 21-01-2012 11:35 AM

M05-M06
 
Im quite interested in getting an M06 since I can never get my M05 to keep up with any of the others (yes, I know that it is largely due to my crap driving skills!)

I had a chat with Adam/Danny last night re the differences between M05 and M06 (which are quite obvious!!), however I didn't realise that many of the parts are the same (transmission, hubs, bearings etc) between to 2 cars.

On looking through the manual it seems like to upgrade an M05-M06 you only need parts bags A, B, D and E.

Just been on Ebay and can buy all of this (inc P&P) for £30

Stuweatherman 21-01-2012 12:39 PM

Its not quite that simple, there are other parts required like the shock hinge pins on the rear, battery posts to hold down the battery strap and different rear hubs (not the 3racing with multiple positions as link angle is wrong).

But if you're struggling with an M05 then you don't want a 6 as they take quite a bit of setting up and even when setup right are a lot more twitchy to drive. Also you have to drive differently as its rwd.

If you do decide to change it DONT set it up as medium wheel base as it has a terrible swinging effect so the shortwheel base is quicker on the 6.

Aran 21-01-2012 01:34 PM

@chris i recently got a m06 cheap off ebay. Just finished rebuilding it as soon as I get a suitable lipo ill bring it down west bridgeford.

Chris56 21-01-2012 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuweatherman (Post 610252)
Its not quite that simple, there are other parts required like the shock hinge pins on the rear, battery posts to hold down the battery strap and different rear hubs (not the 3racing with multiple positions as link angle is wrong).

Cheers for the info Stu - I did spot the rear hinge pins - the ebay shop I bought the parts from sells them so will add them to the order

RE the battery strap stays - I may have to break out the trusty dremel!

Do the std M05 plastic rear hubs fit the M06? although I use the 3racing ones on my M05 I do still have the original ones

shaun m 21-01-2012 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuweatherman (Post 610252)
Its not quite that simple, there are other parts required like the shock hinge pins on the rear, battery posts to hold down the battery strap and different rear hubs (not the 3racing with multiple positions as link angle is wrong).

But if you're struggling with an M05 then you don't want a 6 as they take quite a bit of setting up and even when setup right are a lot more twitchy to drive. Also you have to drive differently as its rwd.

If you do decide to change it DONT set it up as medium wheel base as it has a terrible swinging effect so the shortwheel base is quicker on the 6.

sorry stu :woot: im gonna have to disagree with you here :o

as you know i have my m06 , have had an mo3 and m05 , and soon after running the m06 , i decided i would never go back to the 5 ..

my m06 is really easy to drive , ( even with brushless / but on a smooth punch setting ) is'nt twitchy atall , and i acually found it easyer with the medium w/b ...:confused: , just somethimes can be a little lazy throu chicanes !!

wes j. 21-01-2012 07:49 PM

Get the M04 mate and give your thumbs a workout. Mine was great in the twisty bits but trying to hold it in a straight line was the problem :lol::thumbsup:.

reg 21-01-2012 08:00 PM

im starting to worry.......iv been wondering what a mini shell would be like in my colours:o:woot:

wes j. 21-01-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reg (Post 610419)
im starting to worry.......iv been wondering what a mini shell would be like in my colours:o:woot:

Shite :lol:. Do it dude.

chris brown 22-01-2012 12:04 AM

M06 has the same rear hinge pins as the m05. Think you have been looking at the m06 pro version which is different.

Chris56 25-01-2012 12:10 AM

Bits arrived today and conversion is now complete.

M06 has adjustable camber front and rear unlike m05 and does require longer camber links. Fortunately I had some spare "short" turnbuckles in my kit, otherwise not a bad conversion for £30!

Another plus is that the body mounts are in exactly the same position so an existing shell can be used without cutting extra holes - even the Hpi Honda Civic shell fits (just!!!)

Dave Dodd 25-01-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 610419)
im starting to worry.......iv been wondering what a mini shell would be like in my colours:o:woot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by wes j. (Post 610430)
Shite :lol:. Do it dude.

yeah do it Mark :thumbsup:

CougarRob 26-01-2012 08:36 PM

More bits have arrived for my homemade chassis today- just need to finalise how the Yokomo YR4 wishbones and dampers connect to the Kyosho ZX5 hubs and the Tamiya M02 gearbox and front end - oh and not to mention the homemade carbon and ballraced steering plate, grp battery tray and shock towers! I kid you not...:thumbsup:

Dave Dodd 08-02-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CougarRob (Post 612682)
More bits have arrived for my homemade chassis today- just need to finalise how the Yokomo YR4 wishbones and dampers connect to the Kyosho ZX5 hubs and the Tamiya M02 gearbox and front end - oh and not to mention the homemade carbon and ballraced steering plate, grp battery tray and shock towers! I kid you not...:thumbsup:

can't wait to see it :D

Chris56 08-02-2012 10:54 PM

So whats this one going to be called?

CougarRob 11-02-2012 08:50 PM

TamiyokoyoshoM02ish .........probably get it finished just in time for us to go outdoors :thumbdown:

jimmy noke 19-02-2012 04:01 PM

M06
 
I just purchased a m06 kit from Dave and was wondering if a squared of turnigy lipo would fit.

Also some advise as to which wheelbase to build it

Chris56 19-02-2012 05:56 PM

Hi James, yes square LIPOs will fit.

Re wheelbase, it depends what body you run. I think most seem to go for medium, although that could be due to there being more bodies to choose from for this wheelbase - did you get the kit with a body or just the roller? I noticed Dave had a Lancia Stratos shell in stock

jimmy noke 19-02-2012 06:15 PM

M06
 
Yes just bought as a kit no shell and yes he bought it to tease me. But not sure what shell to get either..
I have been told I need to get upgraded bearings b4 I build it..

Chris56 19-02-2012 06:27 PM

Ball bearings are a must, although these are for an M05, they will fit the M06:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-M05...item3a6bb1c0e2

I would also recommend a HPI shell - the abuse mine has taken over the last few weeks and still no splits!

The Tamiya shells are more detailed but crack more easily

jimmy noke 19-02-2012 07:55 PM

M06
 
Thanks mate I was looking at those bearings but wondered if I would need to buy the shields aswell.....


Can't seem to find any shells onebay either

Chris56 19-02-2012 09:23 PM

The unshielded bearings should last ok, particularly indoors.


For Tamiya shells, here are 2 good ones:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-M-C...item1e6b3b2800

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-M-C...item1e6b3b2766

The seller is Rich who races at the club (drives the black/white Cougar). If you message him you should be able to pay/collect at the club.


Here are some other good ones:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/RCRacingUK/...=p4634.c0.m322



RE HPI bodyshells, here are some that will fit:

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-scio...products/39727

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-dats...products/32857

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-dats...products/32858

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-toyo...products/33938

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-bmw-...products/38912

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/hpi-hond...products/38221

For the shells that require an offet, you may need wheel hex extensions or offset wheels.

jimmy noke 20-02-2012 04:16 AM

Shell
 
Cheers mate I'm loving the civic shell. 1 more thing rubber or metal shields on the bearings...

You have been most helpful thanks

Chris56 20-02-2012 07:46 PM

The Civic shell does look good.

I run metal shielded bearings and haven't had any problems, rubber might be better though

wes j. 20-02-2012 08:22 PM

Loving the Datsun 510 shell especially the green one.

Robbiejuk 22-02-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wes j. (Post 623343)
Loving the Datsun 510 shell especially the green one.

Me to, not so impressed with the price though :cry:

I want the porsche one :D

Chris56 22-02-2012 09:15 PM

I quite like the Porka - motor is in the right place on the m06. Think Dave can do one for £22, but you also need 6mm offset rear wheels

Robbiejuk 22-02-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris56 (Post 624329)
I quite like the Porka - motor is in the right place on the m06. Think Dave can do one for £22, but you also need 6mm offset rear wheels

Yeah or you could use Tamiya tg10 axles and the large hexes that come with the m03 will do the trick. Have to dig mine out !

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-508...ht_2539wt_1163


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