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Anibal Henriques 20-01-2012 03:09 PM

210 Gear DIFF
 
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Itīs coming :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Reo 20-01-2012 04:14 PM

looks good!

muratti 20-01-2012 04:47 PM

Since WHEN and WHERE is this available???

Anibal Henriques 20-01-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by muratti (Post 609911)
Since WHEN and WHERE is this available???

It is on is way ,arrived at China and now is coming to europe ,Diff and Body -shell:thumbsup:

kimipt 20-01-2012 07:09 PM

Hey Anibal, where can i get this? :drool::drool:

Autocratic 20-01-2012 07:36 PM

Won't run it, even though I'm on the SC10 gear diff. I refuse to have any kind of e-clip on my car, ever again. Doesn't matter how big the clip is.

stephenh 20-01-2012 08:00 PM

what he said, lol. E Clip has been a pain. Whats the idea of an e-clip in a gear diff? How can it be smoother than say the SC10 one?

fastinfastout 20-01-2012 10:57 PM

what's the problem with E-clips in gear diffs?

I have built several gear diffs from other manufacturers, and most of them had E-clips

Autocratic 21-01-2012 01:56 AM

The SC10 diff had a pin that locks the outdrive in, which can't come out because of how the internal gears are slotted. A clip can easily get stressed and come loose.

muratti 21-01-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 610047)
what's the problem with E-clips in gear diffs?

I have built several gear diffs from other manufacturers, and most of them had E-clips

Either never had a problem with E-clips in my whole 15 years of building RC.

hotrodchris 21-01-2012 09:07 AM

I would rather have a pin fitting as well, find eclips awkward and can pop off or stretch and weaken whereas a pin held in place by the gear is not going anywhere.
But do like the look of the diff compared to the SC110 one!

mattr 21-01-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by muratti (Post 610120)
Either never had a problem with E-clips in my whole 15 years of building RC.

Can't understand the hate either, large parts of my bike are held together with e-clips (and c-clips) even user serviceable and load bearing parts.

And i bet most of the haters drive too........ large chunks of your car (inc. safety critical parts) are held together by C/E-clips..........

Dazzler 21-01-2012 10:40 AM

Maybe the ARRMA outdrives and gear set will drop straight in. That's cross pin driven. I'm more than happy with the design as is. Just need to get my hands on one..

corsa148 24-01-2012 09:25 AM

Been lookin for reviews om this diff what are the advantages over running this has anyone got any links to Durango site with any reviews
:D

jonathan may 24-01-2012 09:42 AM

less maintance for one advantage i run a sc10 gear diff in my 210 with 50wt schumacher oil and it felt better then the ball diff

Michiel H. 24-01-2012 01:39 PM

All over the place when used on dirt.

raymondkerr 24-01-2012 02:16 PM

Does anyone have advise on which weight of oil to use in the 210 Gear Diff. Having never ran a gear diff in a 2WD before ??? will be running on a small tight carpet track which is fairly high grip.

On the 410 I normally run 7k rear, 12.5k front. :confused:

/tobys 24-01-2012 02:23 PM

Check the TD site for DEX210 indoor setups (Ardent & Broxtowe Indoor as 2 examples). The ones I've looked at seem to be running either 3K or 5k...

Hulk 24-01-2012 02:25 PM

Hi mate,

ive been running the geared diff since using the car at the oople race in July.

I tend to run anything between 1k to 5k, but have found 3k to be a good all rounder on most tracks.

On a high grip track you can go really light on the oils, which really allows the car to pivot whilst still giving you loads of drive on corner exit.

I think a good starting poing would be 3k. If you need more rotation then go down in the oil or up if you need less rotation.

Think you will find 3k works really well.

Craig

jamiekerr14 24-01-2012 02:26 PM

It varies I have seen some have run 650 some have run 1-2-3+.. I have been running a SC10 diff in mine for a good 3-4 meetings.. and have tried 3k-2k-1k and favoured 2k.
A lot depends on the track layout grip.. driving style and so on...

jimmy 24-01-2012 02:35 PM

Chris Doughty put in the TQ at last weekends Players and finished 3rd overall using the gear diff - he ran 7,000 cst oil in it.

raymondkerr 24-01-2012 02:52 PM

Cheers Guys (Craig, Jamie & Jimmy) :thumbsup:

I'll look at starting with 3K and see how it goes.

Raymond.

Hulk 24-01-2012 02:52 PM

7k obviously proved to be really good at Worksop but that's on a cork surface, which is fairly loose traction. 7k on Loose traction tracks will help prevent the car from diffing out under power.

On a high grip track you shouldnt really have any issues with the car diffing out which enables you to go much lower on the diff oils. this allows lots of quick rotation which is good on tight technical tracks with plenty of grip.

Diff oils vary from track to track, so best thing to do is have a play around and see what works for you. :)

Anibal Henriques 24-01-2012 02:54 PM

I think the rule is ,less grip more K,5k up ,more grip(full carpet track) 5K down.
Im waiting and waiting to get this gear diff,in Tresrey they have allready got it ,im think more 3 weeks and is for sale in europe ,let cross fingers :thumbsup:

TonyM 24-01-2012 07:33 PM

MB Models are stating that they expect their stock in later this week.

corsa148 24-01-2012 07:44 PM

So could someone give me a run through how these work over the standard is there an tec spec on the Durango site

ConceptRacing 24-01-2012 09:25 PM

I have been looking for a diff oil comparison chart as I presume diff oils are the same as shock oils and that every oil is slight different unless they are all measured in cst.

Hulk 24-01-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ConceptRacing (Post 611751)
I have been looking for a diff oil comparison chart as I presume diff oils are the same as shock oils and that every oil is slight different unless they are all measured in cst.

As far as know all diff oils are measured in cst.

Just stick with Team Durango oils so you know exactly what your using. All the team drivers will more than likely be using TD's oils, so using their oils will make it easier to copy set ups from the website. :thumbsup:

corsa148 24-01-2012 10:54 PM

Is this worth upgrading over the standerd diff

Hulk 24-01-2012 11:21 PM

In my opinion its defo worth having a geared diff as an option.

The ball diff seems better suited to low grip tracks as it helps generate traction without diffing out.

The geared diff is great on high grip tracks such as carpet or astro. Your able to achieve more rotation and more drive in a straight line.

Geared diff also has the advantage of fit and forget for most people. The only parts you ever really have to replace are outdrives when they wear out. The ball diff requires more maintenance and replacement of parts.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages so by having one of each, you can choose which to run depending on the surface.

slowjun 25-01-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 611547)
7k obviously proved to be really good at Worksop but that's on a cork surface, which is fairly loose traction. 7k on Loose traction tracks will help prevent the car from diffing out under power.

On a high grip track you shouldnt really have any issues with the car diffing out which enables you to go much lower on the diff oils. this allows lots of quick rotation which is good on tight technical tracks with plenty of grip.

Pardon my ignorance but when you mean diffing out, is this when the tires rotates faster than the other? so when your track is low traction do i need a lower wt oil or heavy?

thanks

/tobys 25-01-2012 07:14 AM

It's when the inside wheel breaks traction under power.

I'm guessing a using a stiffer oil on low traction slows the diff operation down and thus helps reduce this. On high grip, a lower weight oil can be used as the available traction reduces the chance of this happening.

slowjun 25-01-2012 09:18 AM

tnxs, will have to try to bring in heavier on my diff and see what happens...

jonathan may 25-01-2012 10:58 AM

so on a damp astro track with 650cst oil in the diff it is too light and will spin out so need to go higher?
what would be a good starting point for diff oil for a astro and grass track

Anibal Henriques 25-01-2012 12:01 PM

For Astro i guess 3 or 5K would be good .

ConceptRacing 25-01-2012 12:09 PM

Hopefully I will try it this Sunday at Broxtowe and see how it goes, fitted a Arrma diff with 3000 diff oil, not sure if i should run a little thicker as its only a 2 gear diff but wont know till i try it.

Anibal Henriques 25-01-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ConceptRacing (Post 611921)
Hopefully I will try it this Sunday at Broxtowe and see how it goes, fitted a Arrma diff with 3000 diff oil, not sure if i should run a little thicker as its only a 2 gear diff but wont know till i try it.

Concept give us the feedback.
i think with two gears is a litle bit diferent the feel to a four gear diff isn`t ?

jonathan may 25-01-2012 12:23 PM

so 650cst is to thin by the sounds of it then it only around 45wt oil

corsa148 25-01-2012 10:12 PM

Well I've got a diff on order now but without sounding stupid once this is fitted you can still adjust the slipper clutch:confused:

shark 25-01-2012 10:23 PM

Yes mate .


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