cab forward shells
 

would you be interested in a cab forward shell for the cougar and the cat sx3
ill do a poll vote on both if you like
please be advised public vote:thumbsup:
I'm thinking finnisher style

None of above - BittyDesign Mugen MBX6 Force style.

slightly similar to the finnisher, thats the kinda style i like

I really dislike the Cubic styling of the Finnisher and the Bulldog shells, I'm sorry :lol:

I suggest doing cab-forward shells like this:

http://www.ultimatetamiya.com/cars/m...olar-eagle.jpg
http://forum.globaltimes.cn/forum/at...0&d=1256192095
http://kedrix.rc.pagesperso-orange.fr/DSCF0018.jpg

Fighter plane-like cockpit, nicely rounded, flowing and aerodynamic shapes (without creating something resembling an ocean like the TRF501X :lol:). I could scan or make some pictures of drawings I made over the last year of cab-forward shells to show more clearly what I mean.

With that said, I don't own an SX3 :p However, if I'd buy a 4WD I do have serious interest in an SX3 - that, or a DEX410.

the problem with the rounded approach is they don't provide the down force the square cab does, the flat face works as a air dam,

Isn't it possible to create similar/the same results with setup instead of changing a whole shell? I like to think shells can be shaped to primarily serve the cause of aesthetics :thumbsup: And if you want proper front downforce, getting a front wing may help? :lol:

not really, nope , and cant be done right

Pityful. I'd still go for a front wing, though that gives a bit more understanding as to why so many of those front cab shells are popping up, often with a front window as square as possible :)

Of course moving the cab further forward is an option, but I guess a less rounded body would indeed be a more efficient option :lol:

I REALLY can't stand cab forward shells, I would honestly rather go a second a lap slower than watch that ugly dog go past me every lap.

Each to their own though...

Cab forward bodies I'm sure have their uses-but if it made my car 1 sec a lap faster...I'd still be slower...as I'd purposely ramp it into track markers because its so damn ugly...:lol:
P.S. Apologies-not very helpful to the thread I know!

So here goes some fun maths.... don't shout if i got it wrong! :)
 

Is there not one available by FTW

there is but its the ugliest thing you'll ever see

Nice calculations ASKay, couldn't tell you if your right or not but to say the amount of force is insignificant I'm not so sure. 0.06 kg is 60g and in the grand scheme of things not that great, but plenty of people add weight to their cars of about this amount and feel it improves things, so maybe even a small amount of extra downforce is enough to help?

Thank you.... remember the calc is for a high velocity, and not a realistic corner speed, so to add a curve which gives an indication..

I think this is worthy of its own thread..... be good to model the down force v mass and centripetal force downside.

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture....pictureid=4674

so you can see that at 10mph you get very little back, I have used a different angle of attatck as well 45 degrees, as well as a bigger area...but then at some point the angle of attatck increase will stop working and just create drag, this equation does not identify that change, and I do not know when it breaks.

so at 10mph, adding weights will work way better, but on a fast corner track then an aero method would work better...

appols for temp highjacking thread, back to topic......

p.s. are you thinking/hoping someone will make one for the SX3, or are you thinking of doing one yourself???? if so then I would buy one, just for something different....

and back to my thread

regardless of the physics, cab forward bodies DO make a difference!

I don't really agree on this, it may not be a stunner but it looks better.

What puzzles me is why they'd make the sidepods so high - it could just as well counteract the forward placed cab (especially since it's rounded)? :)

Anyway, wouldn't it be easier to develop a front wing set for the SX3? Perhaps even with front wings that mount on the suspension arms themselves? (After all there's loads of open space there to play with).

PS: Sorry to keep going 'off-topic', but if you look at what your question is about, it's whether people would like more front downforce on their SX3s :p

Was interesting to read that Tom Cockerill test ran a cab forward shell on his Cat, but decided it didnt make enough of an advantage to keep it and has returned to the standard.

My choice would be for the bulldog style as I can see this giving more downforce where its needed (i.e. at the front) - its just unfortunate that it looks ugly as sin! :bored:

The finnisher looks way better but too far back to make a big difference I would have thought.

ill make em look good, bulldog and finnisher style:thumbsup:
ps tom tried the bulldog and said it gave to much front end which is why he went back to std shell

lol. well, if you're making it look good Carl, I'll take one then!

Interesting about Tom's findings - I didnt realise it was too MUCH down force that caused him to go back to the normal style.
This might not be such a problem for me, as my normal summer racing is outdoors on dirt (i.e. not loads of grip)
Im thinking front downforce would work for me here, unlike Tom who Im assuming is running tighter astro tracks.?

sweet cheers mate ill have some pics ready soon

any update :) i wanne see a picture :thumbsup:

Yeah, come on Carl!!
I mean, ffs, its been 7 days now!
hehehe. :p

it will ruffly look something along these lines when done, will be removing the steps at the rear

Looks tasty mate. I definately want to try one. Good job.

Re: steps at rear - I actually dont mind them, but maybe modifying them to be more sweeping and organic as per your other lines on the shell?

Oh, and that nose looks about 9x longer than normal! Is this for the special "Pinnochio" signature edition of the Cat? hehehe :p

thats the 2wd version

Oh ok, I understand, you're getting the kids version sorted before moving onto the grown up 4WD man's man's car. :yawn:

:lol::lol:

P.S. I should jsut say that I only race the Cat mate, so I defo will take a Cat shell of you, but I wouldnt be interested in a Cougar one.
Sorry if I misled earlier.
Just wanted to make sure you werent thinking Id be taking a 2WD as well.
Cheers mate :)

bigred is that body going to be made? if so where and when can I pick one up

ill let you know when i get round to it,it will be soon

Id take a cab forwad shell for the Cougar! Aslong as its better looking than the FTW one :lol:

+1 on that

Looking good, I'll certainly pay you some of my hard earned pennies for the cougar one when they're done.

Wow! Finally a "finnisher style" body for the cougar! :wub
1 for me please!

Cab Forward Bodyshell
 

Looks really good to me, add me to the list for 2, thanks:)

Any news on the Cab forward Carl?

waiting on some new shells to use as blanks moulds 3/4 done

Any more pics Carl? I need a little more front end on the Cougar

not yet mate