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bigchris 08-12-2011 08:38 PM

F gradings 2012?
 
hi
i was loking at dereks formula gradings on SORC website?

some suspect ones in there guys , i finished 5th and have an f3 grading , when someone who only did one round has an f2?

looking for some clarification?

many thanks

chris

Mr Eccleston 08-12-2011 10:27 PM

Just to clarify, these are not my grades. They were supplied via our rep direct from the brca. I can't display the original file as I was file I couldn't, hence copied into the bbk database.

Suggest you have a read of the rule book first to understand how the are created and then contact John directly via pm if you still don't understand it.

If there are errors in what I've done I will be more than happy to change it.

bigred5765 08-12-2011 10:34 PM

not sure if its whats happend here but just for your info, you can be graded f1 and f2 at a national level

discothesnake 08-12-2011 10:39 PM

F gradings
 
These cant be right. According to this i am still a F3 but there are people on F2 who finished lower than me in the championship.

How does that work?

Mr Eccleston 08-12-2011 10:41 PM

Don't think we had anyone getting their F grade from the nationals, they were all achieved via the regional series. I honestly think it's just a case of understanding how the grades are calculated (which is in the handbook), and if they need a little help speak to the BRCA rep. I've had a quick look specifically at the F2's for next year and they look fine to me.

Talking about next year, can't come soon enough :thumbsup:

Mr Eccleston 08-12-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 592470)
These cant be right. According to this i am still a F3 but there are people on F2 who finished lower than me in the championship.

How does that work?

Not sure if you've changed your name, but it says F2 for you, how much have you had to drink tonight :woot:

discothesnake 08-12-2011 11:03 PM

f gradings
 
Must be looking at the wrong section :D

bryan durango 08-12-2011 11:05 PM

i mst be f2 then

Mr Eccleston 08-12-2011 11:10 PM

When you open sorcinfo.org make sure you refresh the page, you might still be looking at cached pages from last year.

When you then click on results at the top, make sure it shows results2012 in the url.

There is no meeting details as they are not agreed yet, plus the series' are empty, only the registered drivers is ready.

discothesnake 08-12-2011 11:16 PM

f gradings
 
Derek - i was looking at the wrong section. Have now seen the correct section.

Bryan - You wont get a F2 grading if you continue to race in B finals all the time!! :p

KennyClark 09-12-2011 07:02 PM

Davie, its no about the F gradings.

discothesnake 09-12-2011 08:12 PM

grades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyClark (Post 592747)
Davie, its no about the F gradings.


Sorry Kenny.....:yawn:

msxmre 10-12-2011 11:07 AM

God didn't know we had all these F2 Superstars racing this season, must remember to bring my autograph book next season. Get over yourselves man....
Scotty....:lol:

jamiew 10-12-2011 11:14 AM

:thumbsup:

msxmre 10-12-2011 11:40 AM

I thought the whole point as Kenny states is turning up to have a great days racing, not worrying about what F grade we're getting.
Scotty....:thumbsup:

msxmre 10-12-2011 11:43 AM

Soz duplicate post

discothesnake 10-12-2011 01:47 PM

f gradings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msxmre (Post 592905)
I thought the whole point as Kenny states is turning up to have a great days racing, not worrying about what F grade we're getting.
Scotty....:thumbsup:

No it's not Scott! It's all about being an F2!!!! :thumbsup:

KennyClark 10-12-2011 06:17 PM

Naw Dave, its no about being an F2.
Its just about the banter!

D20MCK 16-02-2012 07:18 PM

posted in error

bryan durango 23-02-2012 12:51 AM

i was informed tonight that my f grading is void as i was not a brca member last year. i will be placed in the bottom heat this year, even though i was 5th in the 2wd scottish championship last year. brca membership is a must. if you are not registered with brca this year. you cannot race

Rossco_4 23-02-2012 09:06 AM

Bryan how did you manage to race at all last year without a license? if you don't have one you don't have any insurance - so if your car injured someone and they sued you - you personally would be liable.

bryan durango 23-02-2012 10:29 AM

there was a muckup with my application. tried to sort it but got nowhere.

discothesnake 23-02-2012 01:51 PM

BRCA
 
All the more reason to be more strict at regional meetings. No BRCA, no race! Keeps everyone right

bryan durango 23-02-2012 02:36 PM

Quite right, I agree with the rules. Just thought I bring it to the attention of anyone who does not yet have their brca membership. Wouldn't be nice if someone turned up to race and got turned away on the day

Racing Snake 25-02-2012 07:07 PM

Just to clear thing up a little here there were 3 people who had managed to compete without having a BRCA membership.

As you already know Bryan was one of them the others i'm not at liberty to give their names.

I hope i'm correct in saying this but Bryan technically you are not loosing you F grading but seeing as you had no BRCA Licence last year then the SORC committee had to be seen to act. However because there is fault on both the SORC for not checking BRCA membership & also the racers in question then we could only do the following, as a fair compromise:

  1. Competitors don't loose there 2011 result & hence F grade
  2. Competitors who didn't have a BRCA licence during 2011 will be demoted to heat 1 (or the lowest heat) for round 1 of the 2012 season (after round 1 seeding is done on championship position)
With the above in mind & with regards to Bryan specifically he should still manage to qualify well from heat 1 & so be in a much higher heat at round 2 of the championship.

This was deemed to be the only fair solution with both sides having fault in this matter.

Hope this helps

Mr Eccleston 25-02-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan durango (Post 624567)
Quite right, I agree with the rules. Just thought I bring it to the attention of anyone who does not yet have their brca membership. Wouldn't be nice if someone turned up to race and got turned away on the day

I don't see anyone getting turned away from a round of the SORC series.

By prebooking (using the online web entry) your BRCA licence will be checked to make sure it is valid for 2012, if it is you don't have anything to worry about, if it's not, you will be informed (the earlier you pre book the more warning you will have) there is a potential problem.

If you don't pre book to a meeting and just turn up for an entry, you MUST show your BRCA card, the obligation is with the racer, not the host club to prove you are a member or not.

If you are unable to prove you have joined the BRCA, by neither prebooking, nor supplying a valid 2012 BRCA membership card, then you will have to join the BRCA (£14) via the host club on the day before you are entered into the meeting. If you then end up with a duplicate BRCA membership this will be sorted out by the host club after the meeting.

This prevents anyone being turned away from any meeting in the series.

Remember, if you prebook early, it saves both the racer and the host club a lot of problems. This does not force you to enter on the day.

The online entry system will be available shortly, some final checks being made, watch Facebook and oOple for updates.

Racing Snake 26-02-2012 09:58 AM

Derek I'm sorry but why should the host club have 2 deal with getting any BRCA memberships for people who haven't bothered to get a membership before attending a race meeting??

Also further if they end up with a duplicate then that is there issue not the host clubs!

It is solely the responsibility of the racer to get & provide their BRCA membership no one else. Even if they apply through a club then it is still there own responsibility to ensure that they receive their membership by chasing it up if required.

If you wish to deal wish getting BRCA memberships for people at the race meetings the feel free may be a good role for yourself. I however at Falkirk's rounds have more than enough work never mind adding organizing BRCA memberships as well, I'm sure I'm not alone with this view.

discothesnake 26-02-2012 10:59 AM

BRCA
 
Totally agree With John on this one. The guys who run the clubs have more than enough to do beforehand and on the day to mess about with people who could not be bothered renewing their membership.

If you go down south to a meeting without showing your Card then you are heading home so why should it be any different here?

Dave

Mr Eccleston 27-02-2012 11:17 AM

OK, just to clarify, DDRCC will not turn anyone away that cannot prove they have BRCA membership, you will however have to join on the day, so be prepared to pay £14 if you don't prebook or have your 2012 BRCA card.

Might be worth the other clubs hosting a round to clarify their position so that everyone is fully aware before they travel.

Just a heads up for everyone, if you look at registered drivers in the SORC 2012 series, there is a joined date next to your BRCA number, if you don't have a joined date against one of your cars you need to look into why your not showing on the BRCA website as having joined so far. It may be that you haven't joined yet, it may be you have a new number, changed your name, or any other reason.

There is plenty of time before the first round of the SORC series, so if you are showing as not having joined the BRCA, but you have evidence to prove otherwise, you can either pm me or email me at [email protected] and I will update the database before the first meeting.

If you intend to race in 2012, and are not showing in the registered drivers list, if you want you can send your details as well and I'll add you.


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