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Colinevan 15-11-2011 05:05 AM

Are people still happy with there 2wd choices - losi 22, Durango ,cougar and x2c
 
Im curious just to see how people are finding there latest 2wd purchases.

So far I've seen the losi 22's not appear to flavour of the month anymore and they often appear for sale and for a cheap price. Mid motor seems most popular but I personally don't like the idea of having to buy a stubby lipo to fit properly.

Durango 22's seem popular and seem to hold there money. Although if I'm being honest, around the track they don't look as stable as say an x6 and seem a bit twitchy over the bumps. ( I am however interested in buying one ).

Cougar sv's . Had one myself but sold before I used it. As far as I am aware the reliability issues seem to be sorted by buying decent bearings from new. Still popular at racing and a price drop on the s1' seems a good move by Schumacher .

X2c , from what I read they are well liked and loved and appear to be getting a very good team together in the uk. I can see this being the car to beat and spares should be cheaper than the opposition. It's the little things that I don't like using e clips etc and overall ruggedness of materials that give the impression of a cheaper car ( ie materials used ). Again I ca see myself buying one to try as I've had a few madrats and magnums for messing around with.

So that's my opinion, however I'd love to know what cars you are running now and indeed if you have swapped from one brand to another and the reasons behind this.

And lastly to throw a spanner in the works, has anyone movede back to older technology such as losi cr/ b4 or the not so old x6 ha ha ( I still love the x6 lol ).

Fire away and I reckon it should be interesting to hear everyone's opinions.

Colinevan 15-11-2011 05:20 AM

Just to add although it maybe early stages the new centro as well.

It's probably had its maden voyage over last weekend. And what is people's opinions so far. From my understanding it's had a few minor quality issues , but then again turn the clock back and we have all evolved from all kits needing slight mods or kissing With the dremel ha ha.

:)

Origineelreclamebord 15-11-2011 06:04 AM

I bought a TRF201 this summer and I'm very happy with it so far, though I have very little time to go to a track with it. I have to admit though, if the Durango would've been released earlier I would have definetely bought that instead.

I have a DEX210, but it's currently on the shelf :p I can't afford to run two, but I also couldn't afford not buying the DEX210, it's too nice a car for that. That's also the reason I know I would've preferred a DEX210 over my TRF201, the building experience was amazing and the setup options on the car are endless :thumbsup:

The Chef 15-11-2011 07:53 AM

My first 2Wd ever after years of 4WD was a Kyosho RB5 SP2 Vega, although it is the only 2WD I have ever owned I cannot see anything out there that I would rather have as it is so well balanced and I can drive it. Simple and effective.

There are there are enough adjustments for setting up but not so many it gets complicated and I love it.

gainsy 15-11-2011 08:10 AM

Personally i am very happy with the durango, in fact i love it to bits, it is my first 2wd car for a long time & as it stands i wont be going back to 4wd anytime soon
Surprised to hear you say it's not settled over the jumps, mine jumps flat & lands great, i drove a rb5 vega the other week for a meeting & compared to the dex210 it was all over the place, couldn't get it to jump properly & over the bumps it was very scatty, saying that in the right hands it is clearly still a great car as Kev Lee will tell you but it is not for me
Not seen a C4 go yet
As for the old losi's, they are still ripping up the track at stotfold, there are a couple there & they always make the A final
I guess at the end of the day it is the car that does it for you :) for me it's the durango :D

ian h 15-11-2011 08:17 AM

Still loving my cougar, thinking about getting another one and retiring my current one. It has been a great car and it is going really well lately.

Rebelrc 15-11-2011 08:20 AM

Durango don't make a 22!lol

Colinevan 15-11-2011 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 582149)
Durango don't make a 22!lol

Ha ha that's my spelling and doing it on my iPad at daft o'clock in the morning.

I'm abouts to start nights again back in work and needed to stay awake so what better way than rc ha ha.

Colinevan 15-11-2011 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gainsy (Post 582141)
Personally i am very happy with the durango, in fact i love it to bits, it is my first 2wd car for a long time & as it stands i wont be going back to 4wd anytime soon
Surprised to hear you say it's not settled over the jumps, mine jumps flat & lands great, i drove a rb5 vega the other week for a meeting & compared to the dex210 it was all over the place, couldn't get it to jump properly & over the bumps it was very scatty, saying that in the right hands it is clearly still a great car as Kev Lee will tell you but it is not for me
Not seen a C4 go yet
As for the old losi's, they are still ripping up the track at stotfold, there are a couple there & they always make the A final
I guess at the end of the day it is the car that does it for you :) for me it's the durango :D

The durangos seemed to go over southports bumpy section with the cars bouncing and being a tad unpredictable. By comparison an x6 looked like it was on a flat surface and ran in a straight line.

The 22s also appeared a little low on ground clearance and had similar handling. The cougars appeared more settled and equally capable over the rough.

danDanEFC 15-11-2011 09:05 AM

I am still loving my X6. I am so happy I bought another one.

john333 15-11-2011 11:05 AM

Love my Cougar, took it outdoors for the 1st time last weekend at Broxtowe and improved by miles every heat. It is so smooth to drive and jumps superbly.

Moving from 4 to 2WD is the best thing I've done, loving it :-)

Rebelrc 15-11-2011 12:51 PM

I knew what you meant , I was just being a nob lol:)

jimdaloo 15-11-2011 01:02 PM

My sons 11 years old and has been racing a dnx408 for 6mths which he loves again a controversial car.
Bought a dex210 for him first 2wd used it once at stotfold on a damp track car was sublime first time he used it 2nd in B final ,then used it at westmill on the astro mostly 22's there most people commented on how settled it looked in the corners and the amount of grip again on a damp track.Have to say only other car driven is a cougar (didnt get on with it).
My son loves his durango :thumbsup: and is looking forward to Mkgp to see how it really handles.
DURANGOS ALL THE WAY!!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

jayst 15-11-2011 01:23 PM

Im really happy with all the durango products atm. Especially the 210. The 410 hasnt been used used much since having it !!:thumbsup:

JBL 16-11-2011 09:44 PM

I have one of those old Losi's (Stotfold) with a Mid motor alloy chassis and it has been very good in all weathers.

I have recently changed to a Ansmann X2c and all I can say is how easy it has been to drive and set up. The X2c has a big test this Sunday at the Stotfold Winter series round 2.

kayce 16-11-2011 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colinevan (Post 582091)
So far I've seen the losi 22's not appear to flavour of the month anymorand they often appear for sale and for a cheap price .

That's the problem with people relying on flavor of the month to cure their lack of skills as a tuner, mechanic, or DRIVER. :p

hazeandfizz 16-11-2011 11:03 PM

Still loving my Cougar, works so well on any type of surface.:thumbsup:

Colinevan 16-11-2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kayce (Post 583028)
That's the problem with people relying on flavor of the month to cure their lack of skills as a tuner, mechanic, or DRIVER. :p

I wouldn't necessarily agree on that. Some cars are just easier to be faster and far more predictable when pushed.

Me personally I remember having a go on a squared in practise when I was running 4wd . I was immediately impressed on how an un setup car had far more high speed turn in, grip and flew over the bumps compare to the numerous 2wd cars that I have ran in the past .

My experience shows that my

Trf201 was very predictable, understeered at speed but was stable at all speed. Cheap parts was a massive bonus . However was not aggressive enough for me.

Cougar had masses more steering, was generally fast but needed a longer wheelbase, soft top deck and was expensive on breakages.

X6 was ace all around but I managed to snap the chassis as I made the front end to strong by having a k factory tower and alloy top plate . Chassis snapped at literally 10 mph and it put me off.

B4 - what brought me back to racing and when I ran one everyone had one. Never changed the setup and was great apart from in the wet where it behaved like err every other 2wd ha ha. ( other cars I've ran are not as tail happy ).

Colinevan 16-11-2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBL (Post 582987)
I have one of those old Losi's (Stotfold) with a Mid motor alloy chassis and it has been very good in all weathers.

I have recently changed to a Ansmann X2c and all I can say is how easy it has been to drive and set up. The X2c has a big test this Sunday at the Stotfold Winter series round 2.

I think from what I've read I'll probably buy one as I've not read many negatives as yet.

It's interesting reading peoples comments on why they swapped cars and whether or not it was a good decision.

coleman758 16-11-2011 11:21 PM

FAB'S RB5 MCS!!

By far the best car i have ever owned!

Adam F 17-11-2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gainsy (Post 582141)
i drove a rb5 vega the other week for a meeting & compared to the dex210 it was all over the place, couldn't get it to jump properly & over the bumps it was very scatty, saying that in the right hands it is clearly still a great car as Kev Lee will tell you but it is not for :D

I would say there was something wrong with the car!... The RB5 Vega is awesome everywhere...

Jnunu1 17-11-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 583049)
FAB'S RB5 MCS!!

By far the best car i have ever owned!

And also poss the most expensive out of the box. Why is it so pricey and can that cost be sustained?

coleman758 17-11-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jnunu1 (Post 583170)
And also poss the most expensive out of the box. Why is it so pricey and can that cost be sustained?

I will let you try it next week.
You can tell me if that cost can be sustained :D

It really is a perfect car to drive!

colmo 17-11-2011 02:23 PM

I recently plumped for an X6, as it has a good rep and is easy on setup. Yet to run it, will have done by this weekend. I'm no ace, so probably a safe bet.

All things being equal, and starting off (no legacy parts), I'd hunt for a good AC CR2 - having watched Will White aka Legacy555 put one round a polished wood track, with stagger ribs on the front, with a time that would have put it on the 4wd podium, I have yet to be more impressed with a 2wd than that.

gainsy 17-11-2011 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x313 (Post 583165)
I would say there was something wrong with the car!... The RB5 Vega is awesome everywhere...

Yeah there was, i was driving it :p

Jnunu1 17-11-2011 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coleman758 (Post 583187)
I will let you try it next week.
You can tell me if that cost can be sustained :D

It really is a perfect car to drive!

You cant like it that much if you will let me near it! Lol. I will have a bit of a go if thats ok as i am thinking about a jump to 2wd. I will see you next weds at rr!

John

kayce 17-11-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colinevan (Post 583047)
I wouldn't necessarily agree on that. Some cars are just easier to be faster and far more predictable when pushed.

Me personally I remember having a go on a squared in practise when I was running 4wd . I was immediately impressed on how an un setup car had far more high speed turn in, grip and flew over the bumps compare to the numerous 2wd cars that I have ran in the past .

I don't know about all that - because literally any next generation car is going to outperform something of an earlier era. Doesn't prove anything other than (most) newer cars are better engineered. But it still doesn't change the fact that the people that complain about breakages are the ones crashing OFTEN, and that's not the fault of the car it's user-error. ;)

wes j. 17-11-2011 10:07 PM

I've owned my SV for a year now and still love it can't see me changing to anything esle. Great indoors and out and looks to die for. What more could you want :lol::thumbsup:.

xfactor 17-11-2011 10:11 PM

CR2 just one word AWESOME !!!!!! thats why i have five of them :woot:

kayce 17-11-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xfactor (Post 583407)
CR2 just one word AWESOME !!!!!! thats why i have five of them :woot:

What do you need five of them for, replace between heats instead of repair? :lol:

Projectzip 28-11-2011 03:07 PM

Love my Losi 22.
I dont have any weird conversion on it.
Just got some added weight and SMC Saddle Pack lipo.
Drives good enough for me.
I dont have aspirations to be a world champ but enjoy blasting it round at the local clubs (when I can).


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